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How do you adjust your 3-bet range when you're in the Big Blind against an assailant on the Button who opens 60% of their hands?
 
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If I'm playing cash with this player, I'm going to be widening my three-bet range from the big blind for a couple of reasons:
  • I want the button to stop thinking my blind is up for grabs every time
  • I will have a better hand than they will more often than not
  • I have additional cash to reload if we get into a big pot
Someone opening from the button more than every other orbit tells me that they are playing a VERY wide range. Assuming that the 60% rate is indicative of their play - which it won't unless you have played with this player for thousands of hands (Remembering that they are only on the button once every 6 to 9 hands, you'll need thousands of hands to know if this is accurate) their range could look like this
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Even three-betting with a hand like Ten-Nine suited is going to be ahead of a signiicant portion of their range, and flipping against a good chunk of it. But here's the caution to the wind:

Are they as active from other positions? If not, their range might be much narrower than this, and playing much less from other positions, giving their stats like VPIP more in line with what you'd expect.

This is why it's critical to pay attention to what they are doing every hand to know if the 60% raise rate from the button is position related, or player related.

In a tournament, I will be slightly more cautious but still opening up my range considerably especially when we are both deep. When we start to get shallower, I will tend to either fold or outright shove more as calling raises out of position later in a tournament against an aggressive player is a recipe for disaster.
 
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denis_og79 said:
How do you adjust your 3-bet range when you're in the Big Blind against an assailant on the Button who opens 60% of their hands?
To be good at poker we need to be exact in how we study. You are missing data in this question.
1 Cash or MTT? In cash games we are going to pure raise hands that were GTO mixed but the real key is what does the V do when raised-what are their frequencies then? Deep stack cash means we want to have solid post flop strat. GTO Wizard is free great for looking at ranges to know where to adjust from.
2 What stack size? MTT if they have 3x stack vs everyone else they can be opening 60% easily on BTN how we respond to that is difficult because they have 3x our stack, so we have a high-risk premium---Cash 100bb 200bb 300bb all of those stacks shape our ranges.
3 MTT ICM? FT- 2 tables- early rebuy stage? When is this happening?
4 60% open all hands or button hands? All hands mean they can be opening slightly wider button range and are way too wide everywhere else
5 If this is a HUD stat how may hands for this stat? Is there enough of a sample to conclude they are this loose consistently?
6 What does that 60% range look like is it down to K2o or just all the off-suit connectors added in? If they are playing this many hands over a large enough sample, we are going to be able to shape their range.

Equilab is great for looking at full ranges then seeing what hands improve their equity vs that range. Use The Wiz to input a GTO range that applies to the situation, the answers to the above questions and then see how question 6 affects your equity with bottom of GTO 3 bet range.

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I'd probably continue from the Big Blind with a lot of hands which have good post-flop playability. Percentage of value and bluff hands would depend on what I believe their future actions are. Opening 60% and then playing passively has a different counter-strategy than Opening 60% and then continued aggression.
 
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  • Spin and Go format adjustments

  • Aggresive Button: A 60% open rate indicates a very aggressive player. They are likely to continue on most flops, making it crucial to build a strong 3-bet range that can both win pots preflop and withstand continuation bets postflop.
  • Spin & Go Format: The short stack sizes (typically 20 big blinds) and the single-table format mean we need to be more selective with our 3-bets. We want hands that have good showdown value and can also be played effectively in a multi-way pot.
GTO Adjustments:
  • Widening the Range: Against an aggressive Button, we'll widen our 3-bet range compared to facing a tighter opponent. This means including more suited connectors, Ace-rag hands, and even some speculative hands like A2s or KQs.
  • Focusing on Equity: We need hands with good equity against a wide range of Button opens. This favors strong starting hands (AA-AK, QQ-JJ), suited connectors (T9s+, 87s+), and Ace-high hands (AQs+, AJs).
Exploitative Adjustments:
  • Reading the Opponent: If we observe tendencies like overplaying weak hands or bluffing frequently, we can exploit them by adding more speculative hands to our 3-bet range.
  • Stack Sizes: With short stacks, it's crucial to consider the potential for all-in situations. We might add more suited aces and kings to our range to capitalize on this dynamic.
A very simplified not only GTO compliant range vs 60% Button opener:

Strong Hands:
  • Premium Pairs: 22+, AKs, AQ, AJ (and potentially AT depending on your read)
  • Suited Aces and Kings: AQs+, AJs, KQs+, QJs
Connectors and Speculative Hands:

  • Suited Connectors: T9s+, 87s+ (consider adding lower suited connectors like 76s if you're reading the Button as loose)
  • Ace-Rag Hands: A2s+, KTs, potentially other speculative hands like QJs or JTs depending on your read.
Important Considerations:
  • Equity: Focus on hands that have good equity against a wide range of Button opens.
    This means prioritizing strong starting hands and suited connectors.

  • Exploitation: If you notice the Button overplaying weak hands or bluffing frequently, add more speculative hands to your 3-bet range.

  • Stack Sizes: With short stacks in Spin & Gos, consider adding more suited aces and kings to your range to capitalize on potential all-in situations.
This is a very simplified representation. A true GTO 3-bet matrix would be far more complex:

Strong Hands:
  • Premium Pairs: 22+, AKs, AQ, AJ (and potentially AJs depending on your read)
  • Suited Aces and Kings: AQs+, AJs, KQs+, QJs
Connectors and Speculative Hands:
  • Suited Connectors: T9s+, 87s+ (consider adding lower suited connectors like 76s if you're reading the Button as loose)
  • Ace-Rag Hands: A2s+, KTs, potentially other speculative hands like QJs or JTs depending on your read.
Important Considerations:
  • Equity: Focus on hands that have good equity against a wide range of Button opens. This means prioritizing strong starting hands and suited connectors.
  • Exploitation: If you notice the Button overplaying weak hands or bluffing frequently, add more speculative hands to your 3-bet range.
  • Stack Sizes: With short stacks in Spin & Gos, consider adding more suited aces and kings to your range to capitalize on potential all-in situations.
 
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