How necessary is a HUD?

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^^^ I disagree. While it doesn't have the exact same value as it might for cash players, most serious MTT players play against a lot of MTT regs. But not only that, even within the context and sample size of a single MTT, the fundamental stats that at a glance give you a reasonable idea of what a player's tendencies are will converge over just a few hands. There is value in that, especially as players leave your table and come back later. Add in the multi-tabling factor, and HUDs get to be as useful as in cash games.
 
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another dumb question:
can I use it on more than 1 computer? Or do I have to buy a copy for each computer?

and roughly what does it cost?
 
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They cost around $100 and you can use them on different computers, I think.
 
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Both PT4 and HM2 can be installed on multiple computers. HM2 allows for 2 simultaneous installs, and you can easily move the licenses between computers. PT4 allows at least 2 installs as well, but they manage the licenses differently -- I don't think they have a mechanism to reset or deactivate keys like HM, but monitor them for simultaneous execution or something.

And full stakes versions are $100. You can buy micro-stakes version at a cheaper price, maybe $65 or so, and then pay the difference later to upgrade.
 
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matiusaa said:
If you are only playing tournaments I suggest you don't use it. You will get information on the players of your table with such a small sample that you could be playing with wrong information due tu variace. I think the best to play tournaments is to take notes. HUDs are really useful if you are a cash player, but it can get you into trouble in tournaments
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I fully agree
 
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For me, being able to go back over hands, make notes and use the tools in HM2, like LeakBuster and Notes Caddy helps me identify where I played bad. And even better, how badly my opponets played.

And when you have a big enough sample of hands, you can really drill down and look at what your game needs to improve. So that makes it worth the $$.

Just my $.02 :)
 
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missjacki said:
#2 I play primarily on Bovada and I'm pretty sure there is not a working tracker for Bovada, correct?
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Correct. We do not intend to support Bovada; the company's founders is under indictment by the US DOJ, amongst other reasons.
 
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matiusaa said:
If you are only playing tournaments I suggest you don't use it. You will get information on the players of your table with such a small sample that you could be playing with wrong information due tu variace. I think the best to play tournaments is to take notes. HUDs are really useful if you are a cash player, but it can get you into trouble in tournaments
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This is precisely why we added NoteTracker, this new feature that comes built into PokerTracker 4 takes notes on the ranges you observe from your opponent, assuring that you do not miss notes that you should have taken manually - and helping you focus on the game, instead of writing notes. This is incorporated into the HUD.

PS: Tournament stats become more relevant vs regs and when you play smaller opponent fields, or against players who habitually run deep.
 
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dmorris68 said:
Both PT4 and HM2 can be installed on multiple computers. HM2 allows for 2 simultaneous installs, and you can easily move the licenses between computers. PT4 allows at least 2 installs as well, but they manage the licenses differently -- I don't think they have a mechanism to reset or deactivate keys like HM, but monitor them for simultaneous execution or something.
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We do have this mechanism, but it is only used when we catch legitimate theft of our software, this assures that there are virtually no false positives - we don't disable licenses unless we have legitimate reasons to do so with excessive evidence.
 
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another dumb question, if a certain software doesn't support Bovada, am I still allowed to use it on Bovada just for the purposes of evaluating my own game? or will it not even work at all to capture stats on myself?
 
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The major trackers don't import Bovada HH's directly. There are 3rd party tools available to create Bovada HH's in a format importable by PT/HM for the purposes of self analysis.

Bovada won't stop you either way. AFAIK they don't even ban trackers/HUDs in their TOS, they just design their software in such a way as to make HUDs fairly useless.
 
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missjacki said:
another dumb question, if a certain software doesn't support Bovada, am I still allowed to use it on Bovada just for the purposes of evaluating my own game? or will it not even work at all to capture stats on myself?
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If the software doesn't support particular platform it won't work.
 
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dmorris68 said:
The major trackers don't import Bovada HH's directly. There are 3rd party tools available to create Bovada HH's in a format importable by PT/HM for the purposes of self analysis.

Bovada won't stop you either way. AFAIK they don't even ban trackers/HUDs in their TOS, they just design their software in such a way as to make HUDs fairly useless.
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This is correct. In fact Bovada asked us to support their anonymous hand histories, but we declined to support their hand history format.
 
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