mariussica88
Legend
Platinum Level
F
fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Preflop
K7o is to weak to isolate a limper out of position, so I agree with taking a free flop.
Flop
You flop second pair with a bad kicker, and its a bit of a way ahead way behind spot, since he either have you beat already or need to make at least two pair to beat you. In such a situation its usually best to check, and facing a small bet you have an easy call.
Turn
Still the same situation as on the flop. Your hand is a bluff catcher, so the choise is between check-calling or check-folding, and for another small bet I think, its a call. Why did you consider to raise?
River
Still the same situation apart from the fact, QJ made broadway. Both flushdraws missed, but even so I might let it go now, if he make a substantial bet, because I just dont know, how often people limp pre and then tripple barrel post as a bluff. He only bet 1/3 of the pot though, and for this price I think, you kind of have to call again, even though it sucks.
K7o is to weak to isolate a limper out of position, so I agree with taking a free flop.
Flop
You flop second pair with a bad kicker, and its a bit of a way ahead way behind spot, since he either have you beat already or need to make at least two pair to beat you. In such a situation its usually best to check, and facing a small bet you have an easy call.
Turn
Still the same situation as on the flop. Your hand is a bluff catcher, so the choise is between check-calling or check-folding, and for another small bet I think, its a call. Why did you consider to raise?
River
Still the same situation apart from the fact, QJ made broadway. Both flushdraws missed, but even so I might let it go now, if he make a substantial bet, because I just dont know, how often people limp pre and then tripple barrel post as a bluff. He only bet 1/3 of the pot though, and for this price I think, you kind of have to call again, even though it sucks.
Goggelheimer
Legend
Platinum Level
Think about it!
Villain tripple barrels here, will he do this with less than the holding he had(weaker KX like K8s+)?
Will you do a tripple barrel semi bluff with less than his holding there?
What sort of hand is your K7o on the river?
Strong value, weak value, bluff catcher for weaker KX(which weaker KX is in villains range?)
or much weaker holdings (pure bluffs that are in the range of LJ in six max).
Flop call is ok, perhaps better x/r here.
Rest is a very passive call down line from you because of the 67 vpip value.
GG stats are bullshit in this situation.
No, turn x/r just too expensive there. Better x/r the flop.
c/f turn on this card (2) that did not improve your hand.
Count the combos that can beat you and that you beat on this turn.
Curiosity kills the cat, as well as the winrate.
Villain tripple barrels here, will he do this with less than the holding he had(weaker KX like K8s+)?
Will you do a tripple barrel semi bluff with less than his holding there?
What sort of hand is your K7o on the river?
Strong value, weak value, bluff catcher for weaker KX(which weaker KX is in villains range?)
or much weaker holdings (pure bluffs that are in the range of LJ in six max).
Flop call is ok, perhaps better x/r here.
Rest is a very passive call down line from you because of the 67 vpip value.
GG stats are bullshit in this situation.
No, turn x/r just too expensive there. Better x/r the flop.
c/f turn on this card (2) that did not improve your hand.
Count the combos that can beat you and that you beat on this turn.
Curiosity kills the cat, as well as the winrate.
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eetenor
Legend
Loyaler
There are some easy tells even online as people are still people and show their truths thru actions.
How do we break down this players truth?
1 they limp---passive action- have they shown themselves to be passive already or are they trappy- would an aggro player in your player pool ever limp weak hands. Then bet them 3 streets small.
2 Passive player bets flop small--not trying too hard to get a fold -Trappy getting value ok- aggro setting up turn big bet bluff.
3 Turn again passive player not trying to get folds with larger sizing-- Trappy not trying to get max value on draw heavy board--Aggro not trying to get folds with bluffs and Big Value with everything else. What is the passive player's range of bluffs that wants to do that? yes there might be bluffs.
Our study work is to build that range.
4 Passive player bets river 1/3 pot on that card. Do you ever see your passive V doing that kind of bluff sizing? What are they trying to get us to fold?
Build that range.
Would your V not have to be very aggro to bluff there for that size thinking they would fold AX or KX yet the aggro bluffer did not big bet turn so has very few bluffs that target made hands. Would an aggro player small bet missed clubs after we call twice for this size? --
Would a trapper small bet a set--sure
so our break down is the highest frequency is either we are being trapped=fold or we are being value bet by a weak passive=fold
You may want to study the math of bluffing frequency needed for that call to be good. then data mine how often a passive player bluffs 1/3 pot on river,
If you can find any data that even suggest that it happens. Ok maybe 2% of the time- 1/3 pot river bluffs for everyone in your pool maybe 5% freq
