$8,8 NL HE MTT: KQS

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How would you have played here?

PF: KQS could have gone for a 3bet, but I don't think the posting was a mistake either.

F Favorable for me, there is no tie out there, so I didn't want to raise it back.

Another neutral sheet comes, I pass, I open half of the pot.

The RA check-raise always refers to a strong player, but here I would not be able to throw and he certainly does not bluff, maybe he has a Q9 that he could do.

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UTG: 46 729 (78 bb)
UTG+1:7146 (12 bb)
MP: 7440 (12 bb)
MP+1:26 991 (45 bb)
CO (Hero): 18,285 (30 bb)
BU: 20 447 (34 pcs)
SB: 18 840 (31 bb)
BB: 21 205 (35 BB)

Preflop: (1,460) as Hero CO with K ♣ Q ♣
3 player rolls, MP+1 raises to 1200, Hero adds 1200, 3 player rolls

Flop: (3,860) Q ♦ 3 ♥ 4 ♣ (2 players)
MP+1 bet 1273, Hero gives 1273

Round: (6 406) 8 ♦ (2 players)
MP+1 pass, Hero betel 3.627, MP+1 megad 3.627

River: (13,660) 9 ♣ (2 players)
MP+1 pass, Hero opens 7815, raises MP+1 to 15630, Hero grants 4300 (all-in)
 
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Preflop
With 30BB you are a bit deep to have a 3-bet jamming range, and if you jam, you take away your positional advantage. So the first option, I would rule out here, is to have a jamming range at all. If you 3-bet small, you increase your chance to get it heads-up, but you also set it up perfectly for him to 4-bet jam. With KQs I really dont want to fold, and I also dont want to call it off for 30BB. So I prefer to just call and try to see a flop in position rather than reopening the betting for the out of position player.

Flop
Out of position I might check-raise for value facing this small C-bet, but in position just calling is perfect. You can still get the chips in on the turn and river, if you want to, and its a very static board.

Turn
If you were shallower or much deeper, then this sizing is fine, but with your specific stack size I would go a little larger to set it up for an easier river jam. Like 65% pot, 70% pot rather than 55% pot, 90% pot.

River
This is the reason, why I want to go bigger on the turn. Now you are in this awkward spot, where if you jam, its fairly polarized, and maybe he start to fold some of the hands, you want value from. But if you choose a non all-in sizing, you create this awkard spot, where you are committed, when he jam, but you are also always beat. I dont want to face a decision, if I should fold top pair getting 9:1, and I avoid that by not creating such a situation in the first place.
 
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fundiver199 said:
Preflop
With 30BB you are a bit deep to have a 3-bet jamming range, and if you jam, you take away your positional advantage. So the first option, I would rule out here, is to have a jamming range at all. If you 3-bet small, you increase your chance to get it heads-up, but you also set it up perfectly for him to 4-bet jam. With KQs I really dont want to fold, and I also dont want to call it off for 30BB. So I prefer to just call and try to see a flop in position rather than reopening the betting for the out of position player.

Flop
Out of position I might check-raise for value facing this small C-bet, but in position just calling is perfect. You can still get the chips in on the turn and river, if you want to, and its a very static board.

Turn
If you were shallower or much deeper, then this sizing is fine, but with your specific stack size I would go a little larger to set it up for an easier river jam. Like 65% pot, 70% pot rather than 55% pot, 90% pot.

River
This is the reason, why I want to go bigger on the turn. Now you are in this awkward spot, where if you jam, its fairly polarized, and maybe he start to fold some of the hands, you want value from. But if you choose a non all-in sizing, you create this awkard spot, where you are committed, when he jam, but you are also always beat. I dont want to face a decision, if I should fold top pair getting 9:1, and I avoid that by not creating such a situation in the first place.
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Thank you

PF:GTO also writes 100% call here

R: But then you would have checked here? If he also has a Q, he could have raised on the turn, or he could play a set like this, he could have two weaker cards, QJ Q10, and actually, Q9 Q8, he already has two pairs

And finally, he showed an 89
 
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Geo90 said:
R: But then you would have checked here?
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Depends on the opponent. If I think, I can jam and be good more than 50% of the time when called, then I jam. If not I check back and take a cheap showdown. But if I had bet bigger on the flop, then most likely I jam this particular river card.
Geo90 said:
And finally, he showed an 89
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Mostly just an annoying bad beat. He was almost dead on the flop but hit a perfect runner-runner. Good for him.
 
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