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Message: [QUOTE="hackmeplz, post: 5657395, member: 89075"] Preflop raise size is whatever. I typically just stick with 3x everywhere but the button but it's not a big deal. There's no way the average 16nl reg is actually picking up what it means when individual people vary their open size though. Here's a good test to prove I'm right. Pick a regular you've played with some, maybe just pick one from that table. Now try to remember what hands you've seen them show down when they 3x vs 4x. Think about whether they ever do 4x, whether they 2x, whether they 3x. Is it position-based, based on fish at the table, hand-based? Can you remember all that stuff about them? I didn't think so, neither can they about you. Flop/turn are obviously standard, turn could be a ch/r but I prefer betting as a default. Others were saying raise I think it can go either way. My standard is definitely to call, especially since his range is actually kinda narrow utg vs hj and we definitely want to keep his bluffs in. River fold is literally burning money. Like I'm not trying to be mean but this is ridiculously attrocious. You beat some of his value range and despite what people think yes this can be a cheap bluff too. And how often do you have to be right? You have to call $4.29 to win $17.91, so you have to be right 19.3% of the time. This is almost definitely the case. Let's be super generous to his range being strong. Personally I think smaller bets are almost never flushes, because if he has a flush (and it's usually the nut flush) he knows you opened 4x utg and on this flop there's a very good chance you have a set or 2p so he's going to jam, it's only 2/3 pot. But let's say that's not true and he bets this size with all his flushes and has no bluffs: Hands you lose to: JTs (4 combos), AT-AJcc (2 combos), A2-A5cc (4 combos), 87cc, 54cc. So being super generous (most people fold A2-A5s or 54s or 87s some of the time when they're hj vs an utg open), we're giving him 12 combos that beat you. In order for you to be good, we need to find 3 combos you beat. Is this even a question? Even if the only hand you beat that he plays this way is 66, you STILL have odds to call. But in reality he probably has some AQ and KQ, could have A9 occasionally (turn he turned it into a bluff then awkwardly tried to value river, not saying it's a good play but it's one I can see a 16nl reg making). And if he ever bluffs even 1% of the time the fold starts to get even worse. [/QUOTE]

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