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Message: [QUOTE="JBGoode, post: 5418224, member: 316441"] I believe we took the riskiest line possible to maximize value. Figuring the capped Vil can be very polarized. I'm not saying it's wrong, I think it's just a style choice. For the style choice you made you played it 100% correctly IMO. With that said this is the way I would have played it, with a chance of not pulling as much value as you did, but I'm not assuming as much risk either.... I would have flat pre, and I'm sure you are asking, "Why!?" Well, for 1 we are OOP in a multiway pot, if we 3Bet, then that means we should be CBetting a lot of the time. By 3Betting on a missed board, or even a top pair A. We might be CBetting and taking ourselves to value town, and we might not even get the pot heads up either. 2 A4s is a great hand that plays multiway, we either hit or we dont, as for our range we are super wide with hands that have a ton of board coverage. Argueably, giving us better equity against in a 3 way or 4 way pot against opener and the capped ranges. Combine this with that fact we are almost never donk betting in a multiway pot regaurdless if we hit or not, means we check our good hands and our bad hands giving us amazing balance. Allowing us to be very risk adverice... compared to 3betting then Cbetting a lot to stay balanced causing us to assume more risk, but not always getting the same value.... Like I said before by 3Betting OOP, and how you played the rest of the hand post fits the style needed to play correctly. Let's take a second and look at how this hand would have played if we just flat pre.... We flat with 4 callers in at 15? Sorry cant go back and see the hand.... so we are looking at a $60 pot? We flop 2 pair, on a dry unconnected board. Like I said before, we arent gonna donk, so we check. Now depending on the size of the bet to come, and player type of vil. If I believe I can get value on a check raise I will. If I think I will scare them off, I'll check raise turn for value in Hopes they might have picked up a back door or something. If Vil is question is passive, chances are they would check, but I believe 1 of the other 2 players left to act will probably bet. At 2/5, degens, I'm more then likely check raising, betting thin for value on a ton of turns, and either check calling river, or bombing river for value if I believe I'm good.... So let's assume I check raise, and get called, with the 7 that matches the A.... I know the only way I lose here is if they are slow playing a set, or they spiked a higher 2 pair on the turn. So since I check raised the flop we are probably looking at a $340 with hero frist to act on the turn. We have to bet, but I want to bet thin to get bare A to call, super sticky back doors/middle pairs good kicker, even back door straights, and since we bloated the pot OOP. We bet small for pot control so we can check all most rivers if we do get a call on the turn. So we bet out around $120-$140 into $340.... if they raise that we are probably beat, and can make a hero fold depending on the size, and if it's a jam for like $550 or less I'm calling cause Vil knows we sized them up forcing them to make a less then 1 SPR river call on all rivers. So the smart play for Vil is to maximize fold equity with 100% of thier range that holds any kind of equity.... chances are though I would say 4-5 times we are getting a fold on the turn.... cause in Vil spot calling with anything less then an A, or a draw is for sure a mistake.... Even though we get a ton of folds on the turn, let's assume we do get a call.... thinking about what is to come on the river chances are we are just check calling most rivers. Unless it's another Spade, or the board pairs, and they fire out like $550+ (not all in) into a 580-620 pot, and we are only betting river if we get stronger. Like with an A or a 4, cause we need to get value from the nuts.... You see where by playing it my ways it makes it easier to range our Vil? Compared to being super agressive and possibly taking ourselves to value town? [/QUOTE]

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