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Message: [QUOTE="JonSherwood, post: 343497, member: 1634"] Thanks Chicubs, and nice addition to the post. What you've said is very true too, and free cards are always good when you're drawing. Figured I'd start posting some strategies, maybe get some discussion going that isn't "I lsot $4 with my pcket knigs!!1!". I just noticed some mistakes too. I forgot to mention the 6 outs you have to hit your ace or king, but it's good to take notice that with that many face cards on the board you really need to be aware of a straight or two pair. Also, I called the river the turn. :stupid: ;) Thanks again for the addition. Jon [/QUOTE]