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[QUOTE="or3o1990, post: 3193805, member: 113762"]
Feedback appreciated guys.

I could see c/f the flop sometimes with the AK because it does hit their limping ranges. But with the over's and backdoor equity added to the idea that the only limp calling hands that are calling three bets are sets and J10. We would have heard about those hands by the turn in most cases. So on the river the sb's range is incredibly weak. What else can he have that's calling? He did tank on it for a bit so I figure he let a 10 go on the end. One thing I didn't consider at the time is that it was very possible that not all of my outs were clean!

Is that only because I didn't reraise preflop or because I folded on the end?

The guy vipip 2/37, which definitely says A LOT, especially in a 6max game. But I had the same thinking as you. He could be just deciding to open up a bit but I'm pretty sure I know how he would respond to a 3bet, he'll just fold all of his non premium hands. So I'm pretty much hoping to cooler him if 3betting is the plan here. Also, the UTG player was the maniac but even he would have most likely gotten out of the way of my 3bet as I'd only vpip 5/35 hands. The guy in the bb was new to the table.

Sure, I should have just stuck in the extra 4bb's lol. But to be clear I was not trying to induce a bluff. Just trying to get a little value from villains very weak range. Up until he raises the river we're crushing his range.

I think he could have bluffs as well as some 10x but I do think it makes more sense that he could lead these on the river. Fishier players tend not to bluff many rivers.
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