Sunz of Beaches
Whot a Donk
Platinum Level
True, i actually didnt think about that first as he was ranting about the ace and the flush draw but with the lines he took it could be indeed a four or a small pair that he had to bluff now with quads on the board.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Its definitely not a call, I would have found in real time. But I guess, this is why, he is one of the most succesfull online players in the world, and I am not
Aballinamion
Dark Lord of the Sith
Bronze Level
Lol, this hand was pretty interesting. Remember, DePaulo called pre-flop with his entire wide range, knowing that in this spot, out of position, he almost certainly doesn't have an Ace high to represent. He'd probably raise pre-flop with any Ace-high in a situation like this to steal the blinds and stop other players from getting into the pot.
On this kind of board, DePaulo called on both the flop and the turn, trying to realize his equity with his flush draw. But like he said himself, "I have no idea what the f... is going on," and in those spots, the best thing to do is... either give up or just try to hit your draw.
The board is dry, so by the turn, we know DePaulo doesn't have a King, and even if he had a 4x it wouldn't be much good. He could have some pocket pairs and the flush draws, but he genuinely didn't know what was happening in the hand and ended up forgetting he had called pre-flop, flop, and turn.
He was playing on impulse; he didn't know what LinusLove was representing with those bets (had no clue about his opponent's range) and even said he was going to fold when LinusLove bet the turn. That would've been the right decision, and that's why psychological control is your biggest weapon in poker. It doesn't matter how good you are; if you make decisions on impulse (to try and show your stream audience you can play, that you can hang with LinusLove, or for any other flimsy reason), you won't be a good poker player.
A mediocre poker player with emotional control who makes logical decisions is way better than a pro who makes impulsive ones. It's not about the hand itself; the fact is, DePaulo was leveling himself against LinusLove out of pure pride.
And then he starts thinking that maybe he should represent an Ace high flush draw, but that doesn't make any sense based on the actions he took on previous streets.
In the end, he's still thinking wrong: "What if I had raised the flop, could I represent Ace high? I think so..." We don't make decisions in poker based on what we think might have been; we have to have solid logic before we make a move.
And then he yells "NO!" and, comically, "Who is this guy? The best in the world?" No, LinusLove isn't the best in the world, but he played consistently based on the information he had on DePaulo from that tournament and probably from observing other games. The loss of control at the end shows that his ego was bruised, and in the end, that's what was really on the line.
A great example of how not to behave, what your mindset shouldn't be, and a priceless textbook lesson for amateurs like me, regs, and even other pros. We learn from both the successes and mistakes of other players.
And it's no use dropping the F word after it's all over. You just have to accept it and move on. If you keep playing tilted, leveling yourself, and making rash decisions, you're just digging a deeper hole.
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
Ryan is IP (in CO), he Re-Raises on the flop vs. Linus CBet... then calls turn... shoves river Overpot when checked to.
Actually he IS the best in the World... hence why his comment is so funny (Linus was ranked #1 &/or #2 back when online HighStakes DB was still tracking the players results and also based on what his peers were saying (others in top 10 > OtB_RedBaron, Trueteller, Fish2013, educa-p0ker)
These guys were playing cash, $50/$100 on Coinpoker
Ryan likes to entertain while streaming. Sometimes he's pretty funny. He's the guy who won a wsop bracelet while playing the event in his car while parked in a Whole Foods parking lot.
Aballinamion
Dark Lord of the Sith
Bronze Level
Hey man, what a mess I made, eh? lol. Thanks for pointing out my mistakes, it'll help me pay more attention to the videos before rushing to comment. I totally dropped the ball thinking it was a tournament hand and forgot that DePaulo re-raised on the flop... but... even so, some of the points I made still have some interesting validity, considering most of us aren't crushers playing super-high stakes where the whole game is about leveling your opponents.
We can't afford to get into crazy leveling wars at the micros and low stakes, and we especially can't make decisions based on a "feeling" or "I think," like DePaulo did in that hand. Guys like DePaulo, LinusLove, TrueTeller—they can do whatever they want and they'll still be right. They can even play from a car in a parking lot for attention, like you mentioned with DePaulo winning his WSOP ring that way.
Anyway, thanks a lot for reading my wall of text and especially for your honesty. I genuinely appreciate that kind of courageous attitude, and that's why I consider you more than just a forum buddy—I consider you a dear friend.
Talk soon, man. Catch you around.
PS: I hope you keep correcting me. I still have a ton to learn.
Sunz of Beaches
Whot a Donk
Platinum Level
This was written on 2+2 by someone i figure knows what he is talking about. Hope its ok when i copy it here:
"The more you break it down the more it’s easier to see the call. Not taking anything away from the absurd call btw. If Depaulo is snap flatting 23s pre you can assume he’s way too wide and at least pondering a 3b with his Ax hands he wants to play. Then he raises flop with 2 players behind. Reaks of a FD or 4x trying to thin the field and narrow some ranges. Even Depaulo knows that raising nut flush draw in that spot is rarely the play as you dominate lower FD and are mostly folding out worse hands and worse draws. 44 possible. He blocks some middling flush draws which is quite relevant here as a 89s would def be bluffing river and may raise flop. He prob wants to 3b his QJs and JTs sometimes but the insta flat pre helps narrow that down a bit. By river with this runout his range becomes skewed towards 22-66, 34, 45, 46s combos and random flush draws which we were able to discount some if Linus is paying close attention (let’s be real it’s Linus, he picks up on everything). His Q and J hi flush draws likely happy check back river so the only bluffs he loses to are like 97s, 69s and T9s. Depaulo ends up with a lot of non SD counterfeit full houses or turn floats that hate being owned with the small donk lead"
Makes a lot of sense imo.
"The more you break it down the more it’s easier to see the call. Not taking anything away from the absurd call btw. If Depaulo is snap flatting 23s pre you can assume he’s way too wide and at least pondering a 3b with his Ax hands he wants to play. Then he raises flop with 2 players behind. Reaks of a FD or 4x trying to thin the field and narrow some ranges. Even Depaulo knows that raising nut flush draw in that spot is rarely the play as you dominate lower FD and are mostly folding out worse hands and worse draws. 44 possible. He blocks some middling flush draws which is quite relevant here as a 89s would def be bluffing river and may raise flop. He prob wants to 3b his QJs and JTs sometimes but the insta flat pre helps narrow that down a bit. By river with this runout his range becomes skewed towards 22-66, 34, 45, 46s combos and random flush draws which we were able to discount some if Linus is paying close attention (let’s be real it’s Linus, he picks up on everything). His Q and J hi flush draws likely happy check back river so the only bluffs he loses to are like 97s, 69s and T9s. Depaulo ends up with a lot of non SD counterfeit full houses or turn floats that hate being owned with the small donk lead"
Makes a lot of sense imo.
Poker Orifice
And Still...
Platinum Level
His internet went down so he rushed out in his car, with laptop to find a spot he could get internet. Because he was streaming at the time, it did receive a lot of attention (although not intentional at the time). Ryan is mostly a tournament player.
Agree with the rest of your post.
And thanks for the comments friend.
P.S. - I'm still trying to get better at poker but my life still has so many obstacles/hurdles that it has been difficult to achieve my goals. Some things we really don't have much choice over.