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Do you have the guts to fold a full house even if you know there's a chance the other player has a better hand ?
 
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I don't think I can fold a full house. Maybe on flops like KKQQT but not the regular full houses.
 
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Any card match is possible, so even with very strong hands it is worth considering that there is a possibility of a stronger hand in the deck. But I think that losting with a strong hand in such a case is not a mistake, but a risk-taking, saying that if the villain really has the card in his hand that can win, then he deserves it.
 
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Well, folding a fullhouse is quite broad and theoretical issue. Perhaps it would be something to consider if we have a concrete example. Fold or not depends on other things - action beofre etc.
Anyway, it is always worth remembering - hand strenght in poker is relative. We do not loose stack having bad cards - the biggest loses usually take place when we have "second nuts".
 
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In Hold’em, I’ll never fold a full house — maybe in Omaha there’s at least a chance)
 
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i am most likely not folding
 
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It obviously depends on the board. For example, on a board like QQJJK, if I have JT, I would be very cautious against any Q. Everything depends on the community cards and the information we have about our opponent, such as how they play or from which position they entered the hand. The situation also changes a lot in multiway pots, where the risk is higher in scenarios like the one mentioned. That said, if you make a full house using both of your hole cards, it’s very hard to fold, but never completely impossible.
 
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to fold you need to put your opponent on 4of a kind or royal F. that's very rare.
 
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Under one condition — if the board is, for example, QQQ — then maybe. Otherwise, it’s very unlikely that you could fold your hand.
 
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This is a very vague question, so it's difficult to answer in any kind of objective manner, but yes, I think its reasonable to fold some full houses in the same way it's reasonable to fold some straights or flushes. If you hold 55 on an A,K,5 - A - K board and villian is showing strength then it's quite a trivial fold.
 
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As Matt_Burns88 say, hand strength is always relative and not absolute. Rather than ask "what do I have", you should always ask "how many combos beat me", and "can I get called by worse, if I bet/raise".
If you have :2s4::2h4: on :jd4::8s4::2d4: :jc4:, then your hand is usually good enough to play for all the chips, and it would be a mistake to fold it, just because there are a few better hands, your opponent could have to beat you. And typically you also want to bet or maybe raise to get called by hands like trips or draws.
However if the final board is :jd4::8s4::2d4::jc4::jh4:, then you still have a full house, and it even "improved" to jacks full of deuces rather than deuces full of jacks. But you now lose to any hand with a J or 8 and any pocket pair higher than 22. So your (counterfeited) full house is now essentially just bottom pair. No worse hand is ever betting for value, so if you decide to call a bet, you are solely hoping to catch your opponent bluffing with some sort of busted draw.
 
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I never fold a foul house . If I have foull house or better I always call . Now if it's a sat and it's on the bubble , and I am not the shortest stack , I might make such decisions , why take [he risk and get busted by a bad beats hand even if the odds for sth like [hat are very small . . I had such stupid moments on sats , when I could simply sit out and get the ticket , instead I kept on playing and lost . Feels very sucker especially for 0.1 bb guys , saved by a sucker .
 
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I can fold a FH if I have a low FH and the texture of the board has a better one and it's hit villain's range then yes I can find a fold
 
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Dumped many times) And you'll learn! )
 
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It’s tough. Don’t think I can yet. Maybe just flat call cause I’m a whale ahah
 
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Like others said depends on the board, very unlikely but possible.
 
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Can, have and been right doing so(villain showed better). It is pretty rare thou that I'd fold a full-house but I can.

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hardongear said:
Can, have and been right doing so(villain showed better). It is pretty rare thou that I'd fold a full-house but I can.
We are kind of running in circles, but there is a huge difference between having a full house, where you need to use both your hold cards and one, where you only need to use one of your hold cards. If you have :jc4::10c4: on :as4::10d4::10h4:-:7s4:-:ac4:, your opponent just need any random AX hand to beat you. So as in my other example no worse hand is generally betting for value, and if you fold to a big river bet, its not like, its some sort of sick hero fold. An annoying runout, sure, but not a particularly tough decision, if you think, your opponent has a ton of AX in his range and very few bluffs.
Or maybe you have :as4::kh4: on :4c4::3s4::3c4:-:4s4:-:3h4: This is also a full house. But you are playing the board, so you can only hope to chop the pot, and you lose to any random 3X or 4X as well as all pocket pairs 55 and higher. So not exactly the toughest fold in the world, if the opponent bomb the river.
 
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No :) Especially not with bad beats like GGPoker :p
 
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