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I saw so many player at Nl2 use Cashout, when there is only 1 outer and that outer make BBJ. Are they not aware of that, or 1% extra rake dosen't mean nothing. What is your thought?
 
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What do you mean by BBJ?
 
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Players at 2NL are generally new to the game, so its possible, that some of them dont even know about the 1% fee. For me its silly to cash out, if you only have like 5-10% risk of losing the pot. It wont happen very often at all, and the one time it does, at least you have a bad beat story to tell. Also a bit silly to even cash out at all at 2NL. I mean... do we really need to worry about lowering variance, if we are playing for $2 at a time? :)
 
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ya cashout is correctly so many stupid suckouts there.
 
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In a long run, cashing out is not profitable, if it was, GG would not offer that
 
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I think it's up to you to decide either always take it or it will never be optimal
 
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fundiver199 said:
Players at 2NL are generally new to the game, so its possible, that some of them dont even know about the 1% fee. For me its silly to cash out, if you only have like 5-10% risk of losing the pot. It wont happen very often at all, and the one time it does, at least you have a bad beat story to tell. Also a bit silly to even cash out at all at 2NL. I mean... do we really need to worry about lowering variance, if we are playing for $2 at a time? :)
Full ring is 4$ max buy in and, most of players play with full amount if you win pot, you also receive 4k GGThanks points, also highest hand i have seen on Nl2 was 140$.
 
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I use cash out but rarely.
 
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The lowest percentage for me is withdrawal, very few times have I gone all the way and won.
 
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I guess they don't know about the 1% for cashout. I didn't know until you mentioned it. And if you want to cashout it doesn't count for BBJ? I really had no idea, I'll pay more attention to outs for BBJ. I don't really use cashout. But I always offer to run it twice if I have a draw or a set against a draw. Just to decrease variance and give myself the best chance to win the pot.
 
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Ive used it and find I usually guess wrong
 
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At NL2 most players don’t really think about the math behind Cashout — they just see it as “locking profit” and don’t care about the long‑term EV. That 1% extra rake absolutely matters if you’re grinding volume, but for casuals it feels like nothing. The BBJ angle is funny though: yeah, if you cash out with one outer and it hits, you miss the jackpot. Most of them probably aren’t even aware of that detail, they just want to avoid a bad beat. Bottom line: for regs it’s -EV, for recs it’s peace of mind.
 
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fundiver199 said:
Players at 2NL are generally new to the game, so its possible, that some of them dont even know about the 1% fee. For me its silly to cash out, if you only have like 5-10% risk of losing the pot. It wont happen very often at all, and the one time it does, at least you have a bad beat story to tell. Also a bit silly to even cash out at all at 2NL. I mean... do we really need to worry about lowering variance, if we are playing for $2 at a time? :)
When your bankroll is $10 you need to lower your variance when playing for $2 at a time.
 
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After a few misplays and some bad beats (including 5-betting pre-flop all-in with KK then lost to QQ), my bankroll is now down to only 13 buy ins for the lowest stake.

Should I start using the cash out feature or should I continue playing normally (in Hold'em and PLO respectively)?
 
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Longterm it is -EV action. The more you use it, the more you loose.
The only possible way to make profit with this option is "hit and run" so, short term - if you use and and it happens you take advantage on it (because the opponent hit the outer) - stop using it. You could possibly use it in some extraordinary case - like you are in multi-all in -pot and are going to win 4 or 5 stacks. Just use it once to ensure relatively big win. If you are a grinder and it is a spot you encounter once day or even once a week - you definitely should not use it.

Of course it is also possible some people do not know about 1% fee, The same with mentioned BBJ - some people just have no idea there is such a chance for a big win.
 
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Igor Popadyk said:
I think it's up to you to decide either always take it or it will never be optimal
It does not work that way. Actually "always take it" would be the worse possible option - if you always take it, your score would be just this 1% lower. No matter if you are winning or loosing player, you would either win less or loose more.
 
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aorodrigo said:
In a long run, cashing out is not profitable, if it was, GG would not offer that
they offer it to make additional rake. You have to pay fees using the cashout option
 
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miklcct said:
After a few misplays and some bad beats (including 5-betting pre-flop all-in with KK then lost to QQ), my bankroll is now down to only 13 buy ins for the lowest stake.

Should I start using the cash out feature or should I continue playing normally (in Hold'em and PLO respectively)?
For me cashout is an option in PLO because there are so much more possible outcomes than in holdem
 
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Don’t often play on sites that offer cashing out options…but the few times I have and was offered the cash out option when I was way ahead, each and every time my opponent hit a one or two outer to beat me…not a big fan.
 
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I get confused too, but now I am even not cashing out with less probability of winning. Just my opinion on it.
 
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At NL2, Cashout feels more like a psychological tool than a strategic one. Many players don’t think in long-term EV terms, they just want to “lock in” money, especially with small bankrolls. The extra 1% fee matters over time, but most players either don’t feel it or don’t even know about it. The BBJ angle is probably unknown to many as well. For regs it’s clearly –EV, but for recreational players it makes sense as a way to reduce variance and stress.
 
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Don't bother with cash out when playing Holden, but do use the feature when playing Omaha.
 
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I use cashout only when the villain has many outs to beat me
 
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I don't use cashout; I believe that if you're going to use it, you should always use it, so I prefer not to.
 
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