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Message: [QUOTE="Alizona, post: 6186695, member: 444115"] Thanks Rob, when I used HEM a decade ago, they actually have a value "inf" to indicate infinity or "no upper bound" so that's why I asked. And I forgot that HEM merged with PT4 a few years ago, makes me wonder if I missed out on an upgrade discount since I have an older HEM license? I guess at this point it doesn't matter since I've already made my purchase, but it might help someone else out. Gosh it sure is great to have a hand history database again, what a difference it makes for analyzing and trying to improve our game. Never felt a big need for a HUD but that sure is nice to have too. [/QUOTE]