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Message: [QUOTE="dallam, post: 6414413, member: 338743"] For me, 22 is not even playable that deep from this position - and the reason for it I don't get the aim with this combination. We don't need to steal the blinds, so we wanna have some winning parties. Its pretty much sure it will be a multiway flop or someone is trying to 3-bet you cause you are that deep. So at the end of the pre actions, we will have a weak pre hand, bad position and invested chips to a multiway or serious chips to arrive flop already in disadvantage. Also wanna add MP will not bluff it that hard on this flop in normal circumstances, overpair or sthg like 99, 88 is what invisible I put this person in,and the other one's call make it impossible to go along with them ever. Ty for the post, for me the key was in the pre-flop decision, good luck! [/QUOTE]