AA. Fold???

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I guess when I am at final table in 3rd place on the bubble I should just fold everything including AA
 
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Did you have a read on any of the players? particularly the button and BB. The first thing I noticed was the button had you more than covered and my guess is they were a bit of a gambler. What can you see you might have done differently? or would you have changed a thing?
 
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Preflop
Standard open.

Flop
A connected board like this is very dangerous for an overpair, because there are a lot of two pair or even flopped straights, that people can have. I honestly prefer checking here and ideally see a disconnected turn card like a K or a 2 before putting any chips in the pot. But if you are going to bet, it need to be much smaller like 30-40% pot. When you bet full pot, you are mainly getting action from hands, that have you beat or have a lot of equity, and its almost like, you are begging to get stacked by whatever hand cracked your aces on this kind of board.

Turn
Now there is a 1-liner to a straight, so which hands do you think, he is jamming, that you still beat? There are none other than a pure bluff, and what hands can he even have to bluff with, when he had to call full pot on the flop to see the turn? You are almost always beat here, and calling is a pretty significant mistake.

Conclusion
You ask, if you should fold everything on the bubble, and the answer to that is no. But you absolutely need to fold an overpair, when there is a oneliner to a straight, and your opponent moves you in for the rest of your chips. Getting married to aces, when the board runs out like this, is a significant mistake.
 
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If you open with a min-raise, you need to be very careful. Your opponents can enter the game with a very wide range of hands, including small pairs 22+. The flop has dealt dangerous cards for you. You bet the pot. This is a strong hand bet, unless you're a bluffer. The opponent calls, this bet is also strong. This means that the opponent is hooked on the board. The turn was a very bad card. this card closed the Straight as well as the flush draw. You check your opponent bets a big 50%. As a rule, this is a sign of a strong hand. You should have thought about folding. At the lower limits, bluffing is rare. You only have the TOP PAIR. It's not enough to win in such a situation. Of course, folding aces is tricky because they come up so rarely and you're looking forward to winning preflop. Sometimes this is not the case and with AA you have a 14.7% chance of losing.
 
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I am assuming that this is not a satellite.

You should never be folding pre-flop here. 20bb deep, min-raising is absolutely fine.

The flop absolutely smashes the pre-flop callers range here as both BTN and BB are stacked with middling connected cards and small and middle pairs, so sets, two pairs straights and straight draws are everywhere. Against one opponent, I don't mind a small bet of around 25%-30%, but against two opponents, this is a clear check to me. What hands that are better than yours are you expecting to fold to a pot sized bet here? What worse hands are you expecting to call? If you bet pot and get called, your SPR is around 0.5, which is not where you want to be with a marginal made hand.

The turn is a particularly nasty card here as it completes some straights and more 2 pairs. This is a pure check and give up unless villain is a total maniac, even then I'm giving up most of the time. You still have 11 bb behind and 2 players much shorter than you, that you can still expect to bust before you. Remember, in tournament poker, stack preservation is just as important as stack accumulation.
 
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AA is a very strong hand preflop but it can quickly lose strength on the flop. No one will say that you have to fold everything, but you should look at what is on the table and how your opponent plays. And sometimes you have to be ready to fold AA
 
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so true even AA needs to be laid down sometimes in play
 
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When you are so close ITM, yes you must be more carefull and wiser, but generally you must play with the same courage, because you don't know how much this bubble situation will last.
 
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Fast play your Aces, Here you have 20bb, the pot contains already 2bb with the antes in play which is 10% of your stack, you have to shove in the bubble you don't wanna see action, if one player had a pocket pair or AK AQ he will call. min-raising in this situation isn't correct because you give the bb enough odds to call, and the big dog is at your left and he did call in this spot. If you wanted to raise, do raise x3.5 or x4, and shove on any flop you represent much power than playing standard c-bet.
 
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If honestly, I don't remember, that I fold someday the Aces...
 
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i play to win so i never fold aa
 
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In my opinion, his pair of AA was vulnerable on the post-flop, including on the turn, folding AA was difficult but in this situation I think it would be a good idea to fold

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I find it very difficult to fold aces no matter the position I am in.
 
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preflop I can't throw them away)))) - it's not real
 
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Its so hard to fold the AA, but sometimes you have to!
 
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Its easy to fold AA on post flop or on turn like that...
 
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It's possible in Satilites. But you know, what Jesus said, when he got aces? Raise.
 
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Well not preflop but you need to be aware of the situation at each street.
The chip leader is the one person you dont want to get into a big pot with
because he can knock you out.
The flop is pretty bad for you hitting his range pretty heavily
so I think you should pot control and check and see what he does.
Depending on that you can perhaps peel the turn if he doesnt bet big.
If he does continue with any kind of bet here on this flop texture
your average equitty isnt that great and you might want to fold
and wait for more straightforward spots against the shorter stacks
or untill you flop something very strong to go against the chip leader.
 
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I guess when I am at final table in 3rd place on the bubble I should just fold everything including AA
It's strange to hear such reasoning from a man who takes third place on the final table. Two aces is just a super pair preflop. If you didn’t manage to immediately squeeze out your opponent, then he either also has an equally strong hand, or at least a hand that has a tendency to develop. Before playing for everything, you need to know your opponent's range well and take into account the structure of the board. Counting on a pure bluff or that someone will overbet you with an overpair per hand is at least unreasonable.
 
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On the bubble on a bad board, aces pass very easily. It's not interesting for us to play a lot of players on this stage of tournament, so aces play more aggressively with short stacks. Play smart and with ranges of your opponents.
 
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That was an ugly flop to bet pot on 3 handed. You could have bet smaller there and got the same information he had something and there and so many hands that hit that flop 3 handed. Then calling the turn bet he made, what did you put him on that you were beating there. I wont say its easy but I think you coukd have found a fold there.
 
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on the preflop, it was possible to open with a larger bet so that from 109 the opponent would enter the hand not by chance, but how it is played, on the turn, you can already consider the check-pass line, since on such an AA board it is already just a bluffcatcher
 
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I guess when I am at final table in 3rd place on the bubble I should just fold everything including AA
Short answer …. well, you know the short answer already. Sh🥹t happens, a lot.
 
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Yesterday lost AA vs K10 :( it was his turn 6789 came up :(
 
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Easy fold on the turn. There's no point in holding with AA all the way to the river when the situation is hopeless.
 
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