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Message: [QUOTE="BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch, post: 6747701, member: 480921"] This is the classic trap hand for many people. This is only playable in a cash game or the very beginning of a stud8 tourn but definitely not at that stage. Issue #1: blinds are 2/4k and you have 18k so unless that's played very softly you're going to be putting in a big chunk of your stack on the table and you don't want this with that hand. The only way you can really play this is you have the bring in with Q in the hole and the 2 in the door and that's it, that's it. Issue #2 The hand is one of those in between but not going anywhere tricky trap hands that are really hard to play and again where too many people over commit their stacks. You have the nut flush draw but the cards aren't that good because when you see other folks playing a low like in that hand then its a good chance one of them have an ace in the hole so its dead especially with something with a wheel draw like 2-5 in the door, there is a good chance they have the ace or at least something connecting for a possible wheel daw for the chance for the high and to scoop the pot. So that ace is more than likely out. LOL but thats assuming you're not playing a table of beginners drawing to an 8 low with the 2 or something in the door that doesnt remotly connect for a chance for a scoop unless they get uber lucky, lol. Then you have a Q already out so the chances of that pairing go down the drain. And you have A7 for only a low but 2 other more players likely chasing a low so thats additional low cards already out so getting a 7 low is going to be difficult! And the high side doesn't look good either since an ace and the queen are out, lol . Do you see where I'm going ? You're going to have trouble going low and high and you're going to be stuck inbetween and that's not where you want to be for a big chunk of your chips. The only thing you have is the nut flush draw. I'm not going to add the rest but I would really suggest thinking about blind structure and these tricky, trappy hands and realize how much you're actually going to put into the pot before committing. But the best experience is actually to lose with them so the lessons actually have a chance to stick. In order to play this game you have to know how the hand is more than likely going to play out then weigh the risk to reward. The way you're trying to describe your thought process is reactionary as the cards come on the streets but I'm telling you that you have know or at least have an idea whats coming on the streets because again, at that level you're going to be committing a lot of chips or someone could have the low locked up or you're way behind. I can tell you what my cards are going to come on the next street from experience while playing multiple tables and I might be off like a card or the card comes out on the person's board right before me, lol. You'll just know from your hand, whats out and experience. Don't be reactionary though, know whats going to more than likely happen. I can rant about stud8 all day long, lol, just be mindful of these tempting hands and committing your stack in that spot. lol GL I love stud variants. [/QUOTE]

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