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[QUOTE="dallam, post: 6564761, member: 338743"] I agree, there are situations where you must call, even at river. However you put here 2 hands which has nothing to do with this box. It's not a must call at all, it's a must outplay. When you mention effective strategy, you must wanna ask how to deal with bad beats being beat by an underdog? Play lot, well, and long term you should see the game and results positive. [B]The 1st one is[/B] a 3-bet all-in, UTG+1 pushed some 4.5+bb open, so never folding to a shove (in fact, shove is looking weaker here rather than the min 3-bet!). We probably would either way see a showdown, but this way we just lock to run max value, which this hand is deserved, and probably leading pre all the time. [B]The 2nd one[/B], here no all-in pre, but an impactful 3-bet needed, cause 6bb is very low, and that can bring soo many combinations in, especially on this level. As he did it, Q9s could easily call it. I'd say a min. 10bb bet is needed here, but even can go up to 13.5bbs simply: - the earliest positions showed determination already - we don't wanna have multiway pot if not needed - still the whole table is left to act when we put our raise in - we 're building up a nice pot to catch, also this is a deep game yet - 1$ SnG [/QUOTE]
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