What about players should you observe when entering new table?

M

Margo17

Rock Star
Platinum Level
Joined
Aug 21, 2023
Total posts
238
BR
Chips
355
What do you observe about your opponents when you have just entered a table where you have no information about your opponents?
 
Flyer35

Flyer35

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
May 11, 2024
Total posts
2,700
Awards
4
CA
Chips
834
Poker is a social game, or at least that's how I view it. So I want to sit down at a table where the players seems happy to be there. Given the choice I'll leave the grumpy players to others and wait till I can get a happy table. :)
 
C

Cooking

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
May 19, 2011
Total posts
3,042
Awards
2
Chips
767
I don’t know if you are talking about live or online table, but the first thing I try to see is the style of play of my opponents, who is aggressive, tight and who is the fish.
 
TeUnit

TeUnit

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Jan 20, 2009
Total posts
5,767
Awards
17
Chips
207
You should observe all of them all, you should sharkscope all of them, and you should color code all of them. If you do this its easier for you every game and it should help you game select in the future.
 
Newzooozooo

Newzooozooo

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Apr 22, 2018
Total posts
3,195
Awards
2
UA
Chips
434
What do you observe about your opponents when you have just entered a table where you have no information about your opponents?
Hi :)
I look at what ranges my opponents play, how they use their table position and what their betting strategy is. These are probably the main things that I always pay attention to.
 
S

Shooter74

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
Sep 12, 2013
Total posts
1,073
Awards
3
Chips
912
I observe the betting pattern, aggressiveness and what range of hands the opponent usually plays...
 
antonis32123

antonis32123

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Dec 25, 2014
Total posts
7,175
Awards
20
GR
Chips
712
How much crazy they play and if I can determine whether some of them are suspected bots or coluders. If I see such '"players'' I might not play at all , but if it's a freeroll or very low buy in , then I will also try to play not straight poker . ATC and ''shove festival'' strategy is on the menu for such "players"
 
0546474

0546474

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Apr 4, 2016
Total posts
2,623
Awards
14
UA
Chips
190
First of all, against unknown opponents you need to pay attention to the number of chips the players have and, of course, their positions at the table!!!
 
hilary antonik filho

hilary antonik filho

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Jan 8, 2022
Total posts
5,154
Awards
4
BR
Chips
1,484
Online, I don't pay much attention, live, I want to notice as much information as possible, remembering that sometimes the luck factor is predominant
 
A kiravio

A kiravio

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Feb 10, 2023
Total posts
3,314
Awards
5
RO
Chips
640
What do you observe about your opponents when you have just entered a table where you have no information about your opponents?
First of all, you have to be careful of those with a large pile of chips, they are the first to cause problems. Then I would proceed as normal avoiding spills until I had an idea of what I was dealing with at the table...
 
MK_

MK_

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Sep 14, 2022
Total posts
2,482
Chips
1,270
Well chip stacks of course, who limps, who folds, who cbets.... general playing style😎(y)
 
F

fundiver199

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Jun 3, 2019
Total posts
15,591
Awards
2
Chips
824
As others have said, there is obviously a big difference between live poker and online poker, since in live poker you can get information from peoples physical apperance, their table talk and the way, they conduct themselfes on the table. I know nothing about this, since I am an online player, and I will assume, that so are you. So from now on I will only focus on online poker.

I will also assume, you are fairly new to poker, because otherwise you would hardly ask a question like this in "learning poker". And the main thing, I will say, is, that its far more important for you to work of your baseline or default strategy than to work on observing your opponents. We have all seen TV-poker hands, where Tow Dwan pull off some sick bluff, or Daniel Negreanu make a huge soul read.

But the vast majority of the time the best strategy in poker is to play almost like, we are a robot rather than trying to guess, what our opponent might be doing. Some call this GTO, others call it ABC or TAG. Some part of this is knowing our preflop ranges, which boards to C-bet more or less, when to continue on the turn, and how to defend somewhat correctly against aggression.

So if everyone is an unknown, because a new tournament just began, then we just settle in and focus on playing our hands in a straight forward way and stay out of truble. And only when the blinds have gone up, and perhaps we have more information as well, do we start to make more adjustments and fight more for the blinds and antes. Its an old truth, that you can lose a tournament in the early game, but you can not win it.

But if you are going to pay attention to, what your opponents are doing, then the most important thing is to look for unusual action like very large or very small bets. If for instance someone straight out open to 5BB in an online game, where the normal sizing is 2-3BB, it is usefull to know, if this was their first time doing it, or if they do it all the time. If its the first time, we can just fold anything but very strong hands, but if they do it all the time, we should start widering our range, because they likely dont always have a premium hand.

Finally I will say, that the most valuable way to observe your opponents online is by using a tracker / HUD, if the site allow it. In that way you will often find, that you actually do have information about some of the opponents, because you have played with them before. Notes and tags are also usefull for having such a "memory" from game to game.
 
Chebchoub

Chebchoub

Poker is one of life's mysteries
Loyaler
Joined
Feb 21, 2019
Total posts
2,763
Awards
2
MA
Chips
612
Good morning:)
I will be careful of my opponents' reactions as usual, and I will only play strong hands. I will not bet all my chips unless I am the max on the board, so that I can get an idea of how each opponent plays and the style and timing of the skills he uses to defend his hand or catch a fish.
 
10gerka

10gerka

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Total posts
1,251
Awards
3
Chips
615
First I go to their data and label them with colors and make some comments about their game, now adapt to their game and try to be exploitative in their game's weaknesses.
 
dreamer13

dreamer13

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Mar 18, 2022
Total posts
4,708
Awards
2
LV
Chips
1,265
You shouldn't be afraid of something just because you don't have experience in games of this format. Just raise most of your buttons and then add a little postflop. If after ten hands a fish doesn’t join you, then you can sit out or simply leave the table.Go after recreational players. You can also make yourself a list of your “favorite” fish and look for them every time before you start a session.
 
Rost

Rost

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
Aug 26, 2021
Total posts
1,524
Awards
1
UA
Chips
479
What do you observe about your opponents when you have just entered a table where you have no information about your opponents?
I watch how the players play, how they bet, how they use their position, and of course, if I can, I look at who is playing with what hands. I only play online, so I try to use the information that is available to me and I also make sure to take notes.
 
Roobz75

Roobz75

So n' Sew
Loyaler
Joined
Apr 13, 2020
Total posts
1,922
Awards
4
GB
Chips
488
If they're playing aggressively and all over the place, I click on where they're from....
 
S

stil370

Visionary
Platinum Level
Joined
Mar 19, 2010
Total posts
830
Awards
1
Chips
221
I don’t know if you are talking about live or online table, but the first thing I try to see is the style of play of my opponents, who is aggressive, tight and who is the fish.
i label using 3 colors depending on quality of play
red
blue
yellow
 
maronza1

maronza1

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Oct 31, 2021
Total posts
2,028
Awards
8
BW
Chips
952
First of all i observe the stacks size of my opponents, secondly their style of play.
 
Mauricio Perrotta

Mauricio Perrotta

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
May 18, 2015
Total posts
3,109
Awards
2
AR
Chips
677
The stack of chips is the first thing I look at, then I notice how many times it comes into play and how aggressive it is.
 
steve01991

steve01991

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Jan 17, 2015
Total posts
1,929
Awards
5
Chips
395
first i look to see how fast they play and if its consistent, then, size of bets , raises, etc. gives me a clear picture what i'm dealing with.
 
S

stil370

Visionary
Platinum Level
Joined
Mar 19, 2010
Total posts
830
Awards
1
Chips
221
If they're playing aggressively and all over the place, I click on where they're from....
do you find that certain countries produce a certain "type" of player?
 
Top