Do you sabotage yourself?

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Recently I noticed that when a won a considerable money playing poker online, I sabotage myself, and I lose most part of the reward that I won. And I noticed that when I get into a lose sequence I don't know when I need to stop to take a breaf.

When is it happens with you, what you do? What advice you can give for me and other players in this situation?
 
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Yeah my advice is stop the emotional feeling and try to start playing only A+ cwrds and u wont do the same mistakes again :)
 
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What perceive more often is the game itself sabotaging me lol.
 
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That is a really honest post, and a lot of players will recognize themselves in what you wrote, including the part about spewing after a big win or during a losing streak. Self‑sabotage in poker is often linked to tilt, overconfidence when we are up, or even a weird fear of success where the brain wants to “go back to normal,” so it pushes us into careless decisions and big gambles. Just the fact that you noticed this pattern and put it in words is already a big first step, because you cannot fix something you are not aware of.

One thing that helps a lot is setting very clear rules for yourself before the session starts, so emotions don’t get to decide. For example, you can define a stop‑loss, a stop‑win and a “tilt signal”: if you lose X buy‑ins, or your profit drops from the peak by a certain amount, or you feel your heart rate and decision speed going up, you must close the tables and take a break, even if the games look very good. Away from the tables, reviewing hands and working on the mental game (books, videos, or even journaling about what you felt before you started to spew) can slowly build more self‑control and self‑trust, so winning more does not automatically trigger the urge to give it back.
 
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I don't think I have any financial sabotages anymore, but I often sabotage my approach to the game, e.g. I don't get enough sleep even though I know I have an important tournament
 
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bremp555 said:
That is a really honest post, and a lot of players will recognize themselves in what you wrote, including the part about spewing after a big win or during a losing streak. Self‑sabotage in poker is often linked to tilt, overconfidence when we are up, or even a weird fear of success where the brain wants to “go back to normal,” so it pushes us into careless decisions and big gambles. Just the fact that you noticed this pattern and put it in words is already a big first step, because you cannot fix something you are not aware of.

One thing that helps a lot is setting very clear rules for yourself before the session starts, so emotions don’t get to decide. For example, you can define a stop‑loss, a stop‑win and a “tilt signal”: if you lose X buy‑ins, or your profit drops from the peak by a certain amount, or you feel your heart rate and decision speed going up, you must close the tables and take a break, even if the games look very good. Away from the tables, reviewing hands and working on the mental game (books, videos, or even journaling about what you felt before you started to spew) can slowly build more self‑control and self‑trust, so winning more does not automatically trigger the urge to give it back.
Thanks for the tip, it's a great tip, I'll use it in my next matches.
 
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Natox said:
Hey there,
i guess you have to build poker discipline first. Set clear goals and limits (not just deposits for gambling), develop self-awareness about your weaknesses, and use pre-game and in-game strategies like sticking to preflop charts and taking breaks. Consistent practice, including regular study and learning from mistakes, also strengthens your discipline over time. There is much work to do, if you really end up like this. Losing a alot is part of the game, but you should not lose like this and improve mindset aspects.
Yes, I will continue learning more. If you have any content to share, I would appreciate it.
 
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oknada said:
Yeah my advice is stop the emotional feeling and try to start playing only A+ cwrds and u wont do the same mistakes again :)
Yes, when I "lose my mind" most of time I'm playing with other cards and not only with A+ cwrds 😅
 
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mrfastflow said:
I don't think I have any financial sabotages anymore, but I often sabotage my approach to the game, e.g. I don't get enough sleep even though I know I have an important tournament
Yes, I've noticed that when I'm tired, I play some hands that I wouldn't normally play.
 
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Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose. If you are the type that can not stop, you need to force yourself to stop. That's a skill, too. Make yourself a goal on how much you want to win so you can make a 12 hour break at least and try to stick to it.
 
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When I win a lot, I can feel euphoria and overconfidence. When I lose a lot, I feel frustration and the need to recover. I manage this through routines, self-control techniques, stop-loss rules, and mental support.
 
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The best option would be playing less tournaments. For example, you always play that one at 7 pm, them, winning or losing, only go to that one, if you lose or win, you will have 24 hours to recorver your mind.
 
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marco198121 said:
The best option would be playing less tournaments. For example, you always play that one at 7 pm, them, winning or losing, only go to that one, if you lose or win, you will have 24 hours to recorver your mind.
This is great advice. Having a set schedule can be advantageous when dealing with tilt situations. On the flip side the urge to register in another tournament immediately after being knocked out is hard to fight. Good luck mate.
 
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It happens to me too. It's all because at first your BR is just right for the limit, and after you win, your brain says, "Hey, you have more than you need and you can lose some." It's a psychological issue. So you need to be more disciplined in your gameplay, although I have a problem with that myself.
 
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cassimiro said:
Yes, when I "lose my mind" most of time I'm playing with other cards and not only with A+ cwrds 😅
Only playing premiums won't get you far either.
This is a dying style of gameplay and most people who still play that way are eaten alive because they still play poker like in the 80s

bankroll management needs to be A+ if you want to be a winning player.
And I think all of us burned pokerwins before .
The important part is that you learn from it and excercise in discpline and patience.

I for my part have lost my bankroll before by lacking in exactly that . Impatience with the urge to increase the bankroll fast .
Well that approach rarely works out.
You might win something but if you don't stop and take breaks, total loss is inevitable
 
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i sabotage myself playing on rigged ggpoker.
 
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When learning about tilt, you really start to get a handle for all of the different flavours of it.
 
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When when I sit down at a cash game I always set both a time limit and a win goal. When either of those are reached I'll tip the dealer and say goodnight.

Normally I will only play with my original buy in. When that is gone...I am too. :) Though sometimes, if I lost big to a bad beat I'll do one rebuy but that is very seldom.

I can only think of one time when I sabotaged myself in a tournament, and that was a live one. Usually you will have to blind me out to get rid of me. But one night up in Concord, NH I was down to a couple of BBs and went all in with cards I wouldn't normally play. I lost.

Listening to Patsy Cline on the drive home, I realized what had happened that made me do that. I wasn't tired, but subconsciously I was ready to go home. Since then I've consciously been aware of the danger that presents and have avoided it like the plague.
 
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cassimiro said:
Ultimamente, tenho percebido que, quando ganho uma quantia considerável jogando pôquer online, acabo me sabotando e perdendo a maior parte do prêmio. E notei também que, quando entro numa sequência de derrotas, não sei quando preciso parar para respirar.

Quando isso acontece com você, o que você faz? Que conselho você pode dar para mim e para outros jogadores nessa situação?
Study harder until those feelings disappear, because when we study we can analyze whether the way we played was correct or not.
 
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cassimiro said:
Recently I noticed that when a won a considerable money playing poker online, I sabotage myself, and I lose most part of the reward that I won. And I noticed that when I get into a lose sequence I don't know when I need to stop to take a breaf.

When is it happens with you, what you do? What advice you can give for me and other players in this situation?
My advice is very simple. I would advise everyone who plays to always stick to bankroll management. Discipline and bankroll management will always give you a clear guideline on when to stop.
 
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To play online poker, you must always have bankroll management; never play at stakes beyond your bankroll. By having this control and studying the game in the long term, you will be successful.
 
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As soon as you notice the slightest sign that your emotions are taking over your rationality, you should immediately get out of the game. The same goes for fatigue and concentration. From there, you will mostly make bad decisions, even if not all the time.
 
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It's simple here: win $100, withdraw it, and keep playing, otherwise you'll lose everything, especially for those who like to go to casinos.
 
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I also sometimes have something similar, a kind of self-destructive mood, like I’m not sitting down to win but to lose, and when I do win a pretty good prize I relax, become lazy, and stop playing poker.
 
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