Do you think cash games require a different mindset than tournaments?

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Saying both are typical makes this even less accurate not more

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No.



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It's been a long-standing joke in poker for decades, that cash game players sit at nearby casinos, waiting for MTT players who have won to dump their money.

Cash games are significantly more complex, but MTT players are much better than they were in the past. 10+ years ago, most MTT players were absolutely horrible poker players. I mean, crazy bad. Now w/ GTO and all the tools that people have to study shove spots, they are much better.

But in general, it does take two slightly different skill sets between the two formats.
 
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Sure require. In cash games first you need to win cash to pay for rake, at tournament you pay rake once. In cash game on 9player + ante is 16bb/100hands
 
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Cash games are significantly more complex.
Actually cash games are significantly more simple, since you always play in chip EV, and usually (at least online) you are around 100BB deep. But deeper stacked poker is definitely more complex, and on average cash games play with a deeper stack than tournaments. So maybe we can call it a draw? As I see it, cash games require you to get really good in one single discipline, which is 100BB no ante chip EV poker. Whereas MTTs require you to get reasonable good at a lot of different situations including different stack sizes, bounties, bubble play, final table dymanics, short handed play and so on.
 
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Ofcourse.
Certain tournaments you just get 1 buy-in, as to cash you can reload anytime. This makes you have definitely a whole other mindset.
 
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For me the cash game is completely different from the tournament, the cash game if you're not careful your cashier empties very quickly and the tournament you pay a fixed amount and there's no danger of losing your cash
 
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Actually cash games are significantly more simple, since you always play in chip EV, and usually (at least online) you are around 100BB deep. But deeper stacked poker is definitely more complex, and on average cash games play with a deeper stack than tournaments. So maybe we can call it a draw? As I see it, cash games require you to get really good in one single discipline, which is 100BB no ante chip EV poker. Whereas MTTs require you to get reasonable good at a lot of different situations including different stack sizes, bounties, bubble play, final table dymanics, short handed play and so on.
I agree! I would also add that the tables are more dynamic, so it is harder to track the profile of the players, while in cash games the same players are kept for longer periods of time, it is easier to identify patterns.
 
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Yeah, each hand reset the situation in MTT dont reset
 
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I dont play much cash but the disciplines of cash vs mtt vary greatly. I find the more serious better reg players play cash - hard to be profitable playing mtts these days without great game selection.
 
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Different mindset for sure but if one plays full-ring cash he can still play a rather simple TAG strategy for both when deep and then switch to a short stack strategy when short stacked and do quite well still in longer blind level MTT's(10+ mins). I believe it's a lot harder to switch from 6 max cash to MTT's that are full-ring. That's why I've big reason I've always stayed playing mostly full-ring cash...there's not much I find that I need to chance to play both cash(full-ring) and MTT's and be successful at both.

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There are, in fact, several essential differences between cash games and tournaments. In a cash game, players are free to join and leave the table at their discretion, which in itself constitutes a significant distinction. In tournaments, however, one must continue playing until the designated, and often brief, intermissions.
Naturally, the risk-reward ratio between cash games and tournaments is substantial, yet the associated risks are also greater. In cash games, a player can open a single table and leave once satisfied. In online tournaments, however, it is often necessary to play multiple tables simultaneously. This is due to the direct correlation between the number of hands played and the frequency of "bad beats"; that is, the more hands one plays, the greater the potential for frustration from statistically improbable losses, given the increased volume.
The principal difference lies in the stack sizes: cash games are typically deep-stack affairs, where one most often plays with 100 big blinds or more. In tournaments, by contrast, players frequently go all-in with a short stack of between 10 and 20 big blinds.
Nevertheless, I believe your question pertains directly to mindset. Indeed, we can state with certainty that in both formats, one must maintain strong concentration and discipline if the objective extends beyond mere recreation. At cash game tables, one encounters fewer bad beats and frustrations, yet losses are still inevitable. The essence of poker is learning to lose, as this is a fundamental aspect of proficient play. In tournaments, one must become accustomed, sooner rather than later, to facing all-in bets with hands like Ace-King and losing to any manner of suited connectors. Such is the nature of the game. Psychological preparedness, patience, attentiveness, and perseverance are the cornerstones of a healthy mindset, applicable to both cash game and tournament tables.

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Tournament poker isn't as different from cash game poker as people sometimes imagine. Most of what you learn about poker strategy — basic concepts like hand reading, value betting, and hand classes — applies to both formats. If you understand poker theory, there's not much you can do to adapt from one format to the other, except to understand the ICM, which is an extremely important concept at certain stages of a tournament.
 
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If there is a big difference between playing cash games and playing tournaments, one of many is that you can end the session whenever you want, in tournaments that doesn't happen, and in tournaments you find more recreational players than in cash games.
 
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Cash games are more severe and now it is difficult to find weak players, they are like a dying species
 
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I'm sure that the mindset is different between tournaments and cash tables. Tournament poker requires more patience and endurance. There's also an element of competition.
 
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