tracker defense!!

[NoWuckingFurries]

Pt3 and HEM dont use your Internet connection. Its speed is irrelevant. Try to find another lame excuse for being a fish.

What you say is true but HEM can slow your PC down quite a lot, especially if you have a large database. Having said that I think that tracking software is essential if you are going to take the online game seriously and want to multi-table. Sod the ethics.

 

[cardplayer52]

Last month fulltilt had an update that didn't agree with HEM and my HUD was down for a bit. I stopped loading tables when I noticed this but still played a session with 1/2 the amount of tables I normally do. I was totally lost at first. I rely alot on HUD stats and wasn't really aware how much so until they wern't there. I just don't see pokersites ever banning tracking software as there will for sure lose the business of alot of winning regular players that play multible tables. I agree it is an avantage to having tracking software but by no means is it unfair.

 

[Tygran]

What you say is true but HEM can slow your PC down quite a lot, especially if you have a large database. Having said that I think that tracking software is essential if you are going to take the online game seriously and want to multi-table. Sod the ethics.

If you can't afford a computer that can handle it, you can't afford to be playing poker.



Cept maybe 1 table of .01/.02.

and if you think you need a hud for those stakes...well....

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

If you can't afford a computer that can handle it, you can't afford to be playing poker.

Nice to see that you subsequently edited your post. That doesn't change the fact that it's smug, self-satisfied, sanctimonious sewage, but it at least implies that you realised afterwards how bad it sounded.

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

Cept maybe 1 table of .01/.02.

and if you think you need a hud for those stakes...well....

Regarding the bit that you added as an afterthought - why exactly do you think that HEM sell a small stakes version of their software?

 

[Bovinity]

Because there's a market for it. Just because a company sells something doesn't mean you need it.

 

[dmorris68]

Tracking software is valuable no matter what stakes you play. Arguably you probably won't gain much out of tracking villain stats at .01/.02 levels, but people keep ignoring one of the largest benefits of tracking software, and that is tracking your own stats and plugging your own leaks. This is crucial at any stake, especially at those levels where you likely have the most leaks! So to suggest that there is no value in them just because you play .01/.02 is still short-sighted and wrong, IMO.

I don't care how good you think you are at monitoring your own play, unless you have a photographic memory and are a stats savant, there's no way you can know if you're cbetting too much/too little, 3betting too much/little, what your PFR really is, etc. Not to mention graphing your winrate, where you are EV-wise (not that it's as important as some people think), etc.

 

[dg1267]

This is undoubtedly the LOL thread of the month (If not, can someone post the link? I need a good laugh).

Obviously the OP has seen the err of his ways. I didn't see him posting the last page. But as it's been said before, tracking software is available to everyone. So it's not an unfair advantage. I don't believe in bought HH's or data mining so I'm glad they are illegal.

But good luck with your petition. Looks like you might have 2 or 3 ready to sign up already.

 

[8Michael3]

Oh God, I feel the full force of the forum is about to come down upon me--admin, Mods, regs, and all but 1 or 2, lol (my own choice right?). I used PT3 for a month--I felt unethical (but thats me, I couldnt give a chit what you do with it because it isnt that bad if youre adapting to the players and there machines)--and went back to playing without it. I didnt need External plater Assistance. My memory is pretty good. I understand what it does and I know that other players that have it are reading my stats so I just have to adapt. I think it keeps me sharp and keeps me thinking about what theyre thinking (or seeing if theyre using it) about what I'm thinking about them.

GL (sincerely) with your petition even though I wouldnt sign it. Use it if you feel better. or dont use it if you dont feel good about it. And dont give a rats arse if anyone feels like they want to use it either. Personally I think the human mind can think on many different levels than a bot. BTW a good read is absolute hams 1K post. he explains how to use HE damn well. Good read.

 

[dj11]

OP disappeared over a month ago.

My guess is he is trying out the free versions of the trackers, or, he moved on to some other forum, or changed games altogether.

 

[dg1267]

OP disappeared over a month ago.

My guess is he is trying out the free versions of the trackers, or, he moved on to some other forum, or changed games altogether.

Oh, I guess I should have looked at that. derrrrr.

 

[Leo 50]

Books, coaches, training sessions, boot camps or Software.

They are ALL tools we should be using, especially if we want to succeed
(make money) at poker.

Should a carpenter not use an electric saw when building a house?

 

[Stick66]

FFS! I think I missed this thread while I was in Reno. Such LOLz!

 

[konawajim]

Wow.... a whole lot of bashing going here. I'll just wish you Good Luck with your petition.

 

[Aldito]

Its ridiculous to say it gives an unfair advantage. Thats like saying a football player wearing boots has an unfair advantage over a barefoot player. Its an investment that every player should make, and if not, then tough luck, and play without it. The fact that its available to all voids the claim that it provides an unfair advantage.

 

[Sean Pilgrim]

Look Belgo. I don't fear your H.U.D. using A.S.S. or anyone else that needs its or wants it because I variate my play. As far as "making up excuses" goes, well you can shove that chip right up your raisse buddy. I take full responsibility for my play. And since you think I am making excuse I am going to tell you WHY I wrote this and sent petitions. I like arguing and debating disputable things to try to offer a fresh opinion to those who use them or at least a reminder that they should be thinking about it.
So 4K you buddy for the rest of the month.

In Before n00b either applies for Freeroll Club or gets banned for excessive vulgarities

EDIT: Do "rigged" type posts count as "quality" ?

I`m just starting to learn how to use pt3,and I have just down loaded it for the 60 day free trial period. I probobly will end up purchasing it.I know mt personal stats are crappy , and I`m trying to improve on a daily basis.I`m sure that in the long run it will be a great investment.:withstupi

^---------- This... Guy... WINS!!!

 

[Sean Pilgrim]

Hey OP, try googling:
- idleminer
- table ninja
- sharkscope
- pokerbots
That's what your up against, buddy. Adapt or lose.

Sean Pilgrim Waits for OP to have a panic-attack and slip into a crazed "The world is out to get me" Mentality, and then slip into the tinfoil hat, line the walls, windows, and ceiling with aluminum foil. Constantly search the house for hidden cameras and whenever the hell OP decides to search the term "POTRIPPER" on Google, maybe we will have some youtube video to watch of the madness.

 

[absoluthamm]

not everyone can use it ---i have enuf trouble running full tilt without lagging or getting booted off..still on dial up and have to move to get a faster connection...its impossible to run pt3

but aside from that poker should be about your skill and memory not a software aid

You're lagging and getting booted off because you're playing 24 tables on that dial-up, not to mention a computer that is lacking the computing power for those tables. Anyway, you are about a 3/3/0 between all of the hands I have on you from PS and FT, so HEM wouldn't help you anyway since you're only playing like QQ+. I'm not being a dick, just pointing out that nitty play like that doesn't require any sort of tracking because you're range is so narrow that it doesn't matter what your opponents have, you're going all the way with it.

 

[Pokerstudent]

I know this thread was dead many months ago, but I just think it should be noted that:

online poker = poker played online?

FALSE

There are so many differences that it is very much a different game w.r.t. strategy. Online there are so many more resources. I understand the argument that "we don't have these tools live, so why do we have them online?' That makes sense.....if it were the exact same game. It's not. Once you realize that along with standard strategy, there are a myriad of other factors that you should be somewhat familiar with to excel online (e.g finding fish, multi-tabling, sharkscope, tracking software, Table Ninja, internet strength, reading push-fold charts while playing.... just to name a few) This is what essentially makes it a different game. If the OP understands that, then there is no argument...

 

[CAMurray]

I know this thread was dead many months ago, but I just think it should be noted that:

online poker = poker played online?

FALSE

There are so many differences that it is very much a different game w.r.t. strategy. Online there are so many more resources. I understand the argument that "we don't have these tools live, so why do we have them online?' That makes sense.....if it were the exact same game. It's not. Once you realize that along with standard strategy, there are a myriad of other factors that you should be somewhat familiar with to excel online (e.g finding fish, multi-tabling, Sharkscope, tracking software, Table Ninja, internet strength, reading push-fold charts while playing.... just to name a few) This is what essentially makes it a different game. If the OP understands that, then there is no argument...

What he said. :cheers:

 

[fletchdad]

I know this thread was dead many months ago, but I just think it should be noted that:

online poker = poker played online?

FALSE

There are so many differences that it is very much a different game w.r.t. strategy. Online there are so many more resources. I understand the argument that "we don't have these tools live, so why do we have them online?' That makes sense.....if it were the exact same game. It's not. Once you realize that along with standard strategy, there are a myriad of other factors that you should be somewhat familiar with to excel online (e.g finding fish, multi-tabling, Sharkscope, tracking software, Table Ninja, internet strength, reading push-fold charts while playing.... just to name a few) This is what essentially makes it a different game. If the OP understands that, then there is no argument...

^^^^Like this, not to mention agree totally.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

I know this thread was dead many months ago

Bumping old threads is soooo lame.

 

[Worak]

The only interesting line in the whole thread (which was doing well in the place it slumbered/rotted) is the quote:

"I dont care how many times somebody went 3bet, whatever that is lol"

I think I'm gonna keep it.

 

[Double-A]

I dont care how many times somebody went 3bet

:marchmell

 

[fletchdad]

The only interesting line in the whole thread (which was doing well in the place it slumbered/rotted) is the quote:

"I dont care how many times somebody went 3bet, whatever that is lol"

I think I'm gonna keep it.

Did you inform him (or her) that all that means is to bet 3$ more?

It also leads to confusion when someone plays at sites that dont use dollars, as the conversion can lead to 1.9877763498% bets and so on.........