$0 NL HE MTT: I hit two pairs but villain hit a straight with 96o

[miklcct]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

0

Freeroll

1. Freeroll

PFR

0

Currency

$

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (125 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 50,089 (50 bb)
UTG+1: 136,128 (136 bb)
MP: 29,395 (29 bb)
MP+1: 14,534 (15 bb)
CO: 44,562 (45 bb)
BU (Hero): 15,350 (15 bb)
SB: 30,450 (30 bb)
BB: 73,335 (73 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,500) Hero is BTN with 7♥ 8♥
5 players fold, Hero raises to 2,000, 1 fold, BB calls 1,000

Flop: (5,500) 8♠ Q♠ 5♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,375, BB calls 1,375

Turn: (8,250) 7♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 8,250, BB raises to 33,000, Hero calls 3,600 (all-in)

River: (31,950) J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 31,950

Showdown:
BB shows 9♣ 6♥ (a straight, Five to Nine)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows 7♥ 8♥ (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

BB wins 31,950



I lost my tournament because I didn't expect 96o was in range. What did I do wrong?

 

[puzzlefish]

I think the open from BTN is ok but your stack is getting short so maybe would have been better to just fold pre and tighten your range a little more to find a better spot. Suited connectors are mostly losers.

On the flop, you bet very low and gave your villain a good price to call. Either apply more pressure and bet big or accept that he may have Q in his range here and just check the flop.

On the turn I think you just got coolered. You could probably do better by not betting so big because you only scare away the worse hands. A small bet or a check is probably better.

 

[monkeytilter]

At 15bb you did nothing wrong in this hand, just chalk it up as a cooler at this depth. You can consider checking middle pair on the flop, but you still go broke on the turn.

In freerolls you can't apply strict ranges to villains, so never make the mistake of saying "he can never have xx here" in a spot (unless you know villain is a decent reg. - but even then they can splash about in FR)

 

[SPANKYSN]

Like Monkeytilter said, the same rules just don’t apply in free rolls…you will get beat with the most ridiculous hands…and you will win with some of the craziest hands…that’s free rolls for you.

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Standard open.

Flop
You can either check back or C-bet here, but if you are going to C-bet, I like a larger sizing like 2.000 chips. The issue with a really small bet is, that it does not get you much value or equity denial, but it still reopen the betting for the opponent. And you dont really want to get check-raised with a second pair type of hand and face a decision to either fold or play for all the chips.

Turn
Once again your sizing is off, because it commits you to the pot but still leave a tiny bit behind. As played you should make this a 3 street hand by betting a little less than half pot and then get the rest in on a clean river.

Results
You say, you did not expect 96 to be in his range. But this does not even matter, because even if you thought, this hand was in his range, you should still take the same line on the turn, that I outlined above. We make decisions based on the entire range of hands, our opponent can have, not some particular hands we lose to. And its not like, 87 was the second nuts here. You also lost to several other hands like 55, Q5 and so on and so forth. So we fully expect to sometimes lose here, but our hand is still strong enough to bet for value.

The fact, you are focusing on him having 96, is a mental game problem. You are basically saying "OMG my opponent made a bad call and then got lucky, this is so unfair!!!" But what you should actually take away is, that your opponent has a tendency to call to much (not exactly shocking in a freeroll), and the way to adjust to that is to go after more light value. In this case by making a bigger bet on the flop, where either he still call with his gutshot giving you more value, or maybe he now fold giving you protection.

 

[Poker Orifice]

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (125 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 50,089 (50 bb)
UTG+1: 136,128 (136 bb)
MP: 29,395 (29 bb)
MP+1: 14,534 (15 bb)
CO: 44,562 (45 bb)
BU (Hero): 15,350 (15 bb)
SB: 30,450 (30 bb)
BB: 73,335 (73 bb)

Pre-Flop: (2,500) Hero is BTN with 7♥ 8♥
5 players fold, Hero raises to 2,000, 1 fold, BB calls 1,000

Flop: (5,500) 8♠ Q♠ 5♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 1,375, BB calls 1,375

Turn: (8,250) 7♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 8,250, BB raises to 33,000, Hero calls 3,600 (all-in)

River: (31,950) J♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 31,950

Showdown:
BB shows 9♣ 6♥ (a straight, Five to Nine)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) shows 7♥ 8♥ (two pair, Eights and Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

BB wins 31,950



I lost my tournament because I didn't expect 96o was in range. What did I do wrong?

I think the main thing you did wrong was not expecting villain to have 96o

And second thing... were we saving a 1/10th pot bet for a river shove?

 

[wushibala]

You need to understand that you’re playing a freeroll, and looking for mistakes in your own play here is basically wrong. Players in freerolls lose nothing, so they play almost any hand. That’s just how it is. Freerolls are a meat grinder — a game with no real tactics or strategy. People only start playing properly when there are 2–3 tables left.

 

[miklcct]

And second thing... were we saving a 1/10th pot bet for a river shove?

I have preset a few fixed proportion of bet sizing (like 50% pot) and occasionally I will have little left after making a bet of the fixed size.

 

[fundiver199]

I have preset a few fixed proportion of bet sizing (like 50% pot) and occasionally I will have little left after making a bet of the fixed size.

Its ok to use preset bet sizes most of the time, but if a bet will commit you to the pot, you should make an actual all-in.

 

[miklcct]

Its ok to use preset bet sizes most of the time, but if a bet will commit you to the pot, you should make an actual all-in.

Why should I shove in this situation rather than having little left?

 

[fundiver199]

Why should I shove in this situation rather than having little left?

The reason for betting smaller is to keep the opponents range wider and/or not commit ourselfes to the pot just yet. Starting with the latter betting 8.250 will clearly commit you to the pot with any made hand. If the opponent had just called and then led into you on the river, you would not be able to fold two pair or even top pair facing a bet of just 3.600 into a pot of 24.750.

And if your opponent has a made hand, he will also understand, that he can never check-fold the river. So he is not going to give you action any wider, because you bet 8.250 instead of shoving for 11.850. If he has a hand like second pair, that is not willing to play for your entire stack, then he will also fold it to a bet of 8.250.

The only hands, you might get to call 8.250, that would fold to a jam of 11.850, are combodraws like Ts9s. But this is not advantageous, because those hands have a lot of equity. And when they get there, you still lose your last 3.600, but when they miss, they can actually fold, and then you dont get the full dubble up. So you are essentially allowing draws to freeroll you by committing yourself to the pot but not the draw.

If you want to get weaker made hands to call, and also leave yourself the option to not always stack off on a bad river card like the one, that came, then you need to size down. You can bet something like maybe 3.500, so that pot will be 15.350, and you will have 8.350 left for the river. This also allow you to potentially have some tripple barrel bluffs in your range.

 

[Matt_Burns88]

Standard open pre-flop.

Flop: I'm basically mixing 50/50 check and big bet here. I really don't like the small bet as it doesn't achieve anything apart from giving villain the opportunity to x/r with their sets and flush draws.

Turn: Well villain hits their gin card and from here, there's really nothing you can do, that's going to stop you going bust. I also don't like your sizing here. You now have a much stronger hand that needs less protection, so you either want to bet small to keep weaker hands in, or, as your SPR is so low, jamming also makes sense. Your bet is a weird middling bet that makes no sense.

 

[Rmi]

It usually happens, you have to keep playing and accept that these things can happen.