$2 NLHE Full Ring: 11 hours of cash game without a break. Tight vs. Aggressive. Would you do the same?

Vallet · Mar 20, 2021

$2 NLHE Full Ring: 11 hours of cash game without a break. Tight vs. Aggressive. Would you do the same?

I sat at the table all night and all day until my eyes were tired. I've experienced fantastic bad beats with AA vs QQQ; AA vs 555; 333 vs 999 and so on. But I tried to stick to a calm game. Aggressive players put a lot of pressure on this hand, and I felt that I had to take risks with a top pair and a good kicker.
Would you do the same or not in this case?
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gustav197poker · Mar 20, 2021

IMHO I don't think so many hours of cash games without a break is a good idea. In fact, one of the advantages of this type of poker is that unlike what happens in the big MTT tournaments, here it is possible to take more breaks, so that you can play more concentrated on your hands. This is just my opinion and you are free to play for as long as you want, if you have the ability to do so.
As for the hand, the standard line is 4-bet preflop. If you are not 4-betting with AKs, with what hands do you build a 4-bet range here? Only KK+? That is a very predictable game and your opponents will adjust their ranges to destroy you in postflop. I know this is 2NL, so you could have won this hand with your TPTK. But if you plan to stay in cash games, you should start building your 3-bet/ 4-bet preflop ranges better.
Greetings.

Vallet · Mar 21, 2021

gustav197poker said:
IMHO I don't think so many hours of cash games without a break is a good idea. In fact, one of the advantages of this type of poker is that unlike what happens in the big MTT tournaments, here it is possible to take more breaks, so that you can play more concentrated on your hands. This is just my opinion and you are free to play for as long as you want, if you have the ability to do so.
As for the hand, the standard line is 4-bet preflop. If you are not 4-betting with AKs, with what hands do you build a 4-bet range here? Only KK+? That is a very predictable game and your opponents will adjust their ranges to destroy you in postflop. I know this is 2NL, so you could have won this hand with your TPTK. But if you plan to stay in cash games, you should start building your 3-bet/ 4-bet preflop ranges better.
Greetings.

I didn't raise here because I knew they would call with any cards if they had already started to raise on the preflop. This will not give us the opportunity to isolate or reduce the range of the opponent's cards. There was a 3-bet and a raise, so I called to avoid building too big a pot and getting a ree-raise again on the preflop.

zuker · Mar 21, 2021

Very reasonable to not 4bet if it useless(most villains call it).
As played I would continue against multiple villains with two pairs and higher.
But its not exactly

Vallet · Mar 21, 2021

zuker said:
Very reasonable to not 4bet if it useless(most villains call it).
As played I would continue against multiple villains with two pairs and higher.
But its not exactly

I do not create huge pots on the preflop, so that there are no such cases. Which have a strong influence on your future game.
For example, AK and AA.
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gustav197poker · Mar 21, 2021

Vallet said:
I didn't raise here because I knew they would call with any cards if they had already started to raise on the preflop. This will not give us the opportunity to isolate or reduce the range of the opponent's cards. There was a 3-bet and a raise, so I called to avoid building too big a pot and getting a ree-raise again on the preflop.

Don't focus on results, focus on playing properly. If you notice that players at your table call with any hand, that shouldn't be a reason to let them improve with marginal hands postflop. Instead, you can deny him that possibility by 4-betting preflop. And the best thing to do here is to choose a larger size to get preflop value from dominated hands. As you get to know your opponents better, you will discover that at a sticky table, there is always only one player who starts out calling almost 100% of the time and then the rest of the table adopts the same style of play. You have a good hand to catch that player, but you have to identify him first. In the meantime, it's not bad advice when I tell you that 4-bet jam allows you to beat a lot of junk hands preflop.

braun_kan · Mar 21, 2021

For me this is a huge 4-bet pre-flop. I want to charge all the crap hands these guys refuse to let go. Surely at least some of them will fold and then our hand is in much better shape going to the flop against less opponents. A 4-bet pot will also have a much lower SPR on the flop making our decision to stack-off with TPTK a lot simpler.

Vallet · Mar 27, 2021

Just luck. The opponents had only a flush draw and an ace with a smaller kicker.

*** TURN *** [7s Ah Ts] 4♥
*** RIVER *** [7s Ah Ts 4h] 4♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
UTG1: shows [Ks Qs] (a pair of Fours)
MP1: shows [As Js] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
MP1: collected $0.25 from side pot
BTN: shows [Ad Kd] (two pair, Aces and Fours - King kicker)
BTN: collected $5.70 from main pot

Live2Raise · Mar 28, 2021

gustav197poker said:
Don't focus on results, focus on playing properly. If you notice that players at your table call with any hand, that shouldn't be a reason to let them improve with marginal hands postflop. Instead, you can deny him that possibility by 4-betting preflop. And the best thing to do here is to choose a larger size to get preflop value from dominated hands. As you get to know your opponents better, you will discover that at a sticky table, there is always only one player who starts out calling almost 100% of the time and then the rest of the table adopts the same style of play. You have a good hand to catch that player, but you have to identify him first. In the meantime, it's not bad advice when I tell you that 4-bet jam allows you to beat a lot of junk hands preflop.

I +1 this. I don't see the point in not 4betting this hand unless you are against the tightest nit in the world and you know he 3bets only with AA.

That 11hrs session is not the best, especially if you play until you are tired since this will affect your decision making.

Good thing you won here but so many times you will end up against someone who flopped a set with his 77 or two pairs with AT who would wouldn't have called a 4bet PF. When they do, then your hand is still premium and while you're a bit behind against 77, if villain calls a massive 4bet with 77, then he probably stacks himself with that hand postflop regardless of the board

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