3bet pots on Bovada set miners!!?

jsh169 · Jun 4, 2014

Lately I find myself stacking off to light? All these set miners, I sware people are hitting sets against me like 20-25% in 3 bet pots. It is so hard to know their exact range because the anonymous system. A few although, Im still stupid enough to stack off is typically the min raise on the flop. Any suggestions on help on this subject? I guess the primary one is to quit sucking. Obviously there is a big difference between a K42 flop then a 1086, where there could be a good chance they are sticking around with top pair types of hands.

IPlay · Jun 4, 2014

No one is going to be able to help you without posting hand histories as examples.

Ubercroz · Jun 4, 2014

yeah, thats a little vague.

I don't know what your mistake is.

Are you betting too aggressively with TP? Are you calling big turn raises/bets with over cards? Are you being a payoff wizard on the river?

Some examples would help. I do think the goal of not sucking is a good one.

jsh169 · Jun 4, 2014

Ubercroz said:
yeah, thats a little vague.

I don't know what your mistake is.

Are you betting too aggressively with TP? Are you calling big turn raises/bets with over cards? Are you being a payoff wizard on the river?

Some examples would help. I do think the goal of not sucking is a good one.

In a nutshell overvaluing overpairs in 3 bet pots or like tptk (ak), which I would not do near as often if I had detailed stats on the villain. I will look and see if I find any that aren't overly obvious lol.

Weisssound · Jun 6, 2014

Overpairs can be tricky in that way. You're holding aces, you 3-bet OOP, the initial raiser calls you. Fair to bet their range includes A-Broadway, Pocket Pairs, maybe some lower suited connecters depending on the player.

So you get a flop like T 6 7 with a couple matching suits on the board. Most of the time you're ahead here but what if your opponent starts playing back at you, making value-ish moves, check raises you on the turn? Now you have to start questioning how aggressively your opponent will play two pair, top pair, what is the likelihood they're overplaying a draw or semi-bluffing? And ultimately you have to follow your gut and try to make the play that you feel is most-likely to be correct, because you will rarely know for sure.

jsh169 · Jun 6, 2014

Weisssound said:
Overpairs can be tricky in that way. You're holding aces, you 3-bet OOP, the initial raiser calls you. Fair to bet their range includes A-Broadway, Pocket Pairs, maybe some lower suited connecters depending on the player.

So you get a flop like T 6 7 with a couple matching suits on the board. Most of the time you're ahead here but what if your opponent starts playing back at you, making value-ish moves, check raises you on the turn? Now you have to start questioning how aggressively your opponent will play two pair, top pair, what is the likelihood they're overplaying a draw or semi-bluffing? And ultimately you have to follow your gut and try to make the play that you feel is most-likely to be correct, because you will rarely know for sure.

That is kind of a coordinated board Im talking more like boards like Q82 K73.

Pavelito51 · Jun 8, 2014

IPlay said:
No one is going to be able to help you without posting hand histories as examples.

+1

Thinker_145 · Jun 8, 2014

Start making bigger 3 bets OOP.

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