Aggression on micro limits. Do you consider this charity?

Vallet · Dec 23, 2021

I could publish one of these hand in hand analysis. But the fact is that such actions are hardly explicable. If you raise with a good hand from an early position, you will sometimes take blinds at the 5 NLHE, 10 NLHE. But this will never happen at the 2 NLHE. There are a lot of players who want to see the flop and a lot of aggressive players.
Bet-bet-bet-bet line in the hope that the late streets will help. And if the opponents have a HUD, then they will put excessive pressure on you. Players check-raise on a wet board with a draw with a 35-40% chance of winning. Some are even ready to go all in with 100 bb with a flush draw on the flop at the 2 NLHE, 5 NLHE, 10 NLHE.
I think the main thing is just to protect your hand and control the size of the pot. Aggression is like blind rage, it is important to use it for your own purposes. Do you think aggressive players are the most dangerous ? Or is it like charity?

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Luvepoker · Dec 23, 2021

Vallet said:
I could publish one of these hand in hand analysis. But the fact is that such actions are hardly explicable. If you raise with a good hand from an early position, you will sometimes take blinds at the 5 NLHE, 10 NLHE. But this will never happen at the 2 NLHE. There are a lot of players who want to see the flop and a lot of aggressive players.
Bet-bet-bet-bet line in the hope that the late streets will help. And if the opponents have a HUD, then they will put excessive pressure on you. Players check-raise on a wet board with a draw with a 35-40% chance of winning. Some are even ready to go all in with 100 bb with a flush draw on the flop at the 2 NLHE, 5 NLHE, 10 NLHE.
I think the main thing is just to protect your hand and control the size of the pot. Aggression is like blind rage, it is important to use it for your own purposes. Do you think aggressive players are the most dangerous ? Or is it like charity?

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For the record I love the guy with the 62s. Especially the min 3bet. LMAO

As for the other 2, I can see some reasoning to there play at points.

I have see this as well on the lower levels but I have also see this live in the casino. Some players just want to donate chips and you should just keep on taking them. Yes its charity but if they want to give you the chips why not take them

FYI, and no i am not joking. This guy opened and call a 3 bet as did some other guy. Flop was AK something. Our friend donk bet and called the preflop 3betters 3 bets again. On the turn blank he bet out large again the the 3 better gust called. River was a king or something like that and the fool check and called the all in. He looked in total shock when he realized his ten high was no good. Yes this guy called his entire stack with Ten high at the 1-2 for 150BB with ten high. FYI, as this guy walked away I realized the whole table including the dealer just sat there mouths open watching him leave. Nobody could believe he drooped that money like that.

1984 · Dec 23, 2021

Luvepoker said:
FYI, and no i am not joking. This guy opened and call a 3 bet as did some other guy. Flop was AK something. Our friend donk bet and called the preflop 3betters 3 bets again. On the turn blank he bet out large again the the 3 better gust called. River was a king or something like that and the fool check and called the all in. He looked in total shock when he realized his ten high was no good. Yes this guy called his entire stack with Ten high at the 1-2 for 150BB with ten high. FYI, as this guy walked away I realized the whole table including the dealer just sat there mouths open watching him leave. Nobody could believe he drooped that money like that.

It obviously wasn't a poker related action from his side. Have seen similar - not in poker, just generally in life - by real people with eyes to see, doing the same, similar, get rid of the money (if they don't get rid of it, the parasite hordes will take it away anyway in much worse, longer ways, tortures + many other factors)...

When i see, hear one like this , always pop up the scene from the movie Farewell, friend (Bronson, Delon - 1968) in the movie from 4:50 - 5:40 min

https://ok.ru/video/1583057406662

The high 10 guy was still an open eyed human and he didn't care nor poker or money... isn't that obvious??? Hard to free your mind from the lifetime enslavement, insane rules, fake reality, corrupt system etc... but the few can do it.... i always loved to see people like these, acts like these...

Luvepoker · Dec 23, 2021

1984 said:
It obviously wasn't a poker related action from his side. Have seen similar - not in poker, just generally in life - by real people with eyes to see, doing the same, similar, get rid of the money (if they don't get rid of it, the parasite hordes will take it away anyway in much worse, longer ways, tortures + many other factors)...

When i see, hear one like this , always pop up the scene from the movie Farewell, friend (Bronson, Delon - 1968) in the movie from 4:50 - 5:40 min

https://ok.ru/video/1583057406662

The high 10 guy was still an open eyed human and he didn't care nor poker or money... isn't that obvious??? Hard to free your mind from the lifetime enslavement, insane rules, fake reality, corrupt system etc... but the few can do it.... i always loved to see people like these, acts like these...

OK I never thought of it that way. Sad to think someone would feel that way. Good movie clip.

JordanH · Dec 23, 2021

I think aggression is one tool, often overused. I usually play aggressively when I think I have a good shot at winning. Great way to increase value. Sometimes I will miss my boatload of outs and follow through with a bluff. Can't really do that too well if you haven't already set the stage.

I chuckle when I see people advocating aggression at all times. Great way to drop a lot of cash very quickly.

Poker Orifice · Dec 23, 2021

Vallet said:
. Do you think aggressive players are the most dangerous ? Or is it like charity?

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I wouldn't classify these as 'Aggressive' players. I'd consider them as MASSIVE FISH!

Zapahlohotrona · Dec 24, 2021

You should never try to bluff-raise the flop against this type of player. Or worse, check-raise them with a draw on the turn. Until you have a strong premium hand (AA, KK, QQ, JJ, or AK), I suggest you just call their open-raises and 3-bets. In reality, there is only one correct strategy for playing against aggressive ones - that is to let them bet themselves.
They will try to bluff you at every opportunity, so it is in your best interest to give them that opportunity.

ronn6583 · Dec 24, 2021

For aggressive players, the most unpleasant thing is a call from an opponent.
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dongato2 · Dec 24, 2021

In micro limits it is sometimes necessary to be aggressive because they open with many marginal and bad hands

najisami · Dec 24, 2021

The three hand examples illustrate exactly what goes on in micro-stakes. But in those stakes, it's somehow inadequate to talk about aggression which applies (I think) only in higher stakes. In 2NL,5NL,10NL, we encounter mostly fishy moves rather than aggression.

Vallet · Dec 24, 2021

ronn6583 said:
For aggressive players, the most unpleasant thing is a call from an opponent.
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Yes, especially if you play a check-call as in your hands.

barbados · Jan 16, 2022

I don't think aggressive players are the most dangerous. An aggressive opponent is more likely to mobilize your own mental abilities. And you will definitely have a chance to catch him on a good hand and "bite". The main thing is patience, like a fisherman with a fishing rod.

ChubbySin · Jan 17, 2022

Vallet said:
I could publish one of these hand in hand analysis. But the fact is that such actions are hardly explicable. If you raise with a good hand from an early position, you will sometimes take blinds at the 5 NLHE, 10 NLHE. But this will never happen at the 2 NLHE. There are a lot of players who want to see the flop and a lot of aggressive players.
Bet-bet-bet-bet line in the hope that the late streets will help. And if the opponents have a HUD, then they will put excessive pressure on you. Players check-raise on a wet board with a draw with a 35-40% chance of winning. Some are even ready to go all in with 100 bb with a flush draw on the flop at the 2 NLHE, 5 NLHE, 10 NLHE.
I think the main thing is just to protect your hand and control the size of the pot. Aggression is like blind rage, it is important to use it for your own purposes. Do you think aggressive players are the most dangerous ? Or is it like charity?

vs https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/624YD8FoO
vs https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/724YTBVb2
vs https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/124YmqKg8
It's hard to check with four-of-a-kind aces. But sometimes it needs to be done.:icon_sant

The classical beginner/amateur´s mistake, confusing aggressivity with lack of control, I don´t see it as a charity, further, I refuse to believe people have fun losing money, I don´t have fun losing money!

I could see it as a danger, but for themsemlves, but charity? No way.

Joselmb31 · Jan 17, 2022

They are different styles of play, there are microlimits and high levels too, the greater the knowledge of the villain in the game, the more aggressive he will be.

Rockyfour · Jan 18, 2022

The way to counter people who are loose aggressive, is to play a tight and reasonable strategy.

The way to counter high VPIP, is either to play a tight and reasonable strategy, or play loose aggressive and play very aggressively.

The loose aggressive strategy will net you more money faster against weak passive opponents, but is a bit more difficult to pull off. It's also easy to butcher this strategy by not adjusting correctly to tighter players.

The reason why super aggro works against high VPIP opponents, is because their hand selection prevents them from being able to flop strong hands, so they struggle to be able to handle the pressure and are forced to fold a lot of winning hands as it's too likely that they could be dominated.

barbados · Jan 24, 2022

The specifics of playing on micro limits are such that players often take risks at the very beginning of the game, bluffing in the hope of increasing the number of chips. Then, if everything went well, they play carefully. In my opinion, it is not necessary to succumb to the general panic to raise rates. We need to stay calm and play our game. Although in turbo or hyper mode, this is complicated by the time limit.

sincos · Feb 7, 2022

If you don't know how to bluff correctly, then it will be charity!!!!

blueskies · May 14, 2022

At micro levels, I find it much more profitable to play tight and bluff occasionally than play loose and bluff liberally.

I generally only lose big pots if I get sucked out on or coolered. Keeps volatility down. I have never lost my bankroll despite some really incredible long bad runs.

If I find my tablemates are folding whenever I raise, then I loosen up.

Always adapt to how others are playing.

bowserdon · May 14, 2022

Luv to play hate to pay

Vallet · Jun 3, 2022

sincos said:
If you don't know how to bluff correctly, then it will be charity!!!!

Especially when some players begin to portray a hand that is difficult to imagine based on their actions on previous streets.

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Rahatis · Jun 3, 2022

Aggresive players who have reasons to be aggresive and know when to be are the most dangerous. At micros 99,98% are just aggresive just for the fun of it and you only have to love them.

pariurisportive88 · Jun 7, 2022

I like to play agresive in big tournaments all players play fold verry easy

rastapapolos · Jun 8, 2022

In micro limits nl2 and nl5 you'll find recreational players more often than regs, they are not concerned with results, sometimes they watch some pros on tv shows and they want to replicate it on these limits without any knowledge. Now on the NL10 to NL50 you'll find some fish and a lot of reg fish, at least they have crushed the lower limits so they moved up. They became familar with opening ranges, position ...etc that's why you'll find some resistance on these limits.
For the aggression, I think you have to be more aggressive preflop to take more EV. In the spot where you had AK, it's a 3bet spot you want to take the pot right away, you want a big pot in case you hit. Anyway If you are winning with your passivity don't change anything. it's all about strategy.

nerobs9 · Oct 5, 2022

Thoughtless bluffs do not lead to good things.
If the player is ready to give away chips - you need to take)

RustyRed83 · Oct 6, 2022

blueskies said:
At micro levels, I find it much more profitable to play tight and bluff occasionally than play loose and bluff liberally.

Agree with this 100% I have been grinding the micros lately & the tactic of playing tight, occasional bluff has been working wonders. The most profitable plays are people bluffing their cash away, when i'm sitting there with sets.

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