Is it legal to buy PS 'real money' from other players via PayPal?

Tourne · Oct 29, 2017

Just happen to be impatient with the 'local bank transfer' 4 business days option, wondering if players are allowed to transfer funds over paypal to other players in exchange for a transfer of PS 'real money' on Pokerstars?

Similar to when players purchase in-game currency for video games using Skype for trust purposes etc.

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

Nonononono use the stars buy button on cashier to buy bulk play button at nom negotiable rates that fund the room. Do not cheat PokerStars they are very noble for the fantastic free tables. You will be breaking the law if you do this.

Tourne · Oct 29, 2017

I'm talking about real money - if I'm purchasing through another player still stimulating the PokerStars economy the same way. I didn't see any rules against this so trying to figure that out before I try.

Jordenandrew · Oct 29, 2017

Why don't you just put it directly into the PokerStars account then buying it off some one.

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

When you are in prison for cheating PokerStars you will know who you mess with. Best site you are stepping to a king

vinnie · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
When you are in prison for cheating PokerStars you will know who you mess with. Best site you are stepping to a king

Can you provide a reference for PokerStars having the power to imprison people for violating their rules?

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

vinnie said:
Can you provide a reference for PokerStars having the power to imprison people for violating their rules?

https://www.pokerstars.uk/poker/room/tos/

5.9FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR.*In the event that Rational Group deems that a User has engaged or attempted to engage in collusion, cheating, fraudulent, unlawful, dishonest or improper activity while using the Service, including without limitation, engaging in any of the activities set forth in this Section 5 or any other game manipulation, or the making of any fraudulent payment, including without limitation, use of a stolen credit card or fraudulent chargeback or money laundering, Rational Group shall be entitled to take such action as it sees fit, including, but not limited to:

immediately blocking a User's access to the Service;

terminating a User's account with Rational Group;

seizing the funds within a User's account;

disclosing such information (including the identity of the User) to financial institutions, relevant authorities and/or any person or entity that has the legal right to such information; and/or

taking legal action against a User.

vinnie · Oct 29, 2017

So, no, you don't have a source that confirms PokerStars has the power to imprison people who break their rules.

They can forward cases of fraud and money laundering to the local authorities, but do you think those authorities would care to arrest someone and imprison them for selling virtual property to a willing buyer, simply because that violated the terms of service for that site?

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

vinnie said:
So, no, you don't have a source that confirms PokerStars has the power to imprison people who break their rules.

They can forward cases of fraud and money laundering to the local authorities, but do you think those authorities would care to arrest someone and imprison them for selling virtual property to a willing buyer, simply because that violated the terms of service for that site?

You think a company at their level doesn't know top lawyers/solicitors? They will bury you in legal superiority if you mess with them like this and so they damn well should.

Zorba · Oct 29, 2017

Tourne said:
Just happen to be impatient with the 'local bank transfer' 4 business days option, wondering if players are allowed to transfer funds over PayPal to other players in exchange for a transfer of PS 'real money' on Pokerstars?

Similar to when players purchase in-game currency for video games using Skype for trust purposes etc.

I do it all the time at any site that allows player to player transfers, don't listen to any fools that says it is not allowed, no one will find out except you and the person you are transferring with.

The Madman has delusions of grandeur.

:top:

Rational Madman said:
Nonononono use the stars buy button on cashier to buy bulk play button at nom negotiable rates that fund the room. Do not cheat PokerStars they are very noble for the fantastic free tables. You will be breaking the law if you do this.

As usual you reply is nothing about what the OP asked, what has free tables got to do with anything that the OP asked.

Rational Madman said:
When you are in prison for cheating PokerStars you will know who you mess with. Best site you are stepping to a king

Ahhhhh Bullshit.

vinnie said:
Can you provide a reference for PokerStars having the power to imprison people for violating their rules?

Ask him for his cash grinding graph, for someone that claims to be the best poker player ever and cash game grinder had his trial version of a HUD expire and can't provide it.

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

Zorba said:
I do it all the time at any site that allows player to player transfers, don't listen to any fools that says it is not allowed, no one will find out except you and the person you are transferring with.

The Madman has delusions of grandeur.

:top:

As usual you reply is nothing about what the OP asked, what has free tables got to do with anything that the OP asked.

Ahhhhh Bullshit.

Ask him for his cash grinding graph, for someone that claims to be the best poker player ever and cash game grinder had his trial version of a HUD expire and can't provide it.

You are encouraging breaking law of PokerStars I will report you immediately.

vinnie · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
You think a company at their level doesn't know top lawyers/solicitors? They will bury you in legal superiority if you mess with them like this and so they damn well should.

Can you provide a single example of PokerStars getting someone imprisoned for violating their TOS? Not for money laundering or other activities that are illegal beyond the TOS, but for something like selling play money, multi-accounting, botting, or even colluding and flat-out cheating. Can you link to a single arrest and jailing or imprisoning for stuff like that due to PokerStar's legal superiority?

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

vinnie said:
Can you provide a single example of PokerStars getting someone imprisoned for violating their TOS? Not for money laundering or other activities that are illegal beyond the TOS, but for something like selling play money, multi-accounting, botting, or even colluding and flat-out cheating. Can you link to a single arrest and jailing or imprisoning for stuff like that due to PokerStar's legal superiority?

They are merciful masters.

Zorba · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
You are encouraging breaking law of PokerStars I will report you immediately.

Go ahead, My Poker Stars user name is Me zorba, there is nothing they can do. :rofl:

At least you have some comedic value, I get a chuckle from your silly one way affair with poker stars, you have the hand movements down pat, just like shaking dice with one hand.

:top:

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

Zorba said:
Go ahead, My Poker Stars user name is Me zorba.

At least you have some comedic value, I get a chuckle from your silly one way affair with poker stars.

:rofl:

I report to cc mods not ps. Ps is too kind to destroy you

vinnie · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
They are merciful masters.

So, to clarify, "NO". You are talking completely out of your bottom here. You are making stuff up and your delusions go way beyond just believing you are a competent poker player and into making up phony facts about the world around you.

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

vinnie said:
So, to clarify, "NO". You are talking completely out of your bottom here. You are making stuff up and your delusions go way beyond just believing you are a competent poker player and into making up phony facts about the world around you.

The agent of denial does his duty
I will agree I am delusional maniac and know inside the truth.

Zorba · Oct 29, 2017

Go ahead, the CC mods need a laugh also. :rofl: The easiest way is to use the little red triangle on the top right of every post.

Shake those dice mate.

:rofl:

vinnie · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
The agent of denial does his duty
I will agree I am delusional maniac and know inside the truth.

Look man, you're lying to other people on here and making things up to make people unduly afraid. You are making this place worse by spreading false and misleading information.

Why threaten someone with the possibility of ending up in prison for buying PS money outside the normal purchase route, when you then claim that PS is merciful and hasn't imprisoned anyone for such a thing. I know, it's because you like attention and believing you are important. You're not.

koskesh · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
You are encouraging breaking law of PokerStars I will report you immediately.

Dude, everyone gets it: YOU LOVE POKERSTARS and that’s great but everyone else is entitled to their own personal views and opinions based on their own experiences.

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

koskesh said:
Dude, everyone gets it: YOU LOVE POKERSTARS and that’s great but everyone else is entitled to their own personal views and opinions based on their own experiences.

No, Zorba is not entitled to encourage what he just encouraged.

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

vinnie said:
Look man, you're lying to other people on here and making things up to make people unduly afraid. You are making this place worse by spreading false and misleading information.

Why threaten someone with the possibility of ending up in prison for buying PS money outside the normal purchase route, when you then claim that PS is merciful and hasn't imprisoned anyone for such a thing. I know, it's because you like attention and believing you are important. You're not.

Oh yes you know it all.

Zorba · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
No, Zorba is not entitled to encourage what he just encouraged.

Yes I am. I AM THE MIGHTY ZORBA and you just sit at home practising the dice shaking with no dice.

Who gives a shit about what you think about poker stars and what they can do, you're a dreamer, where's the graph.

Do you have a reply as to why you were talking about play money and free tables to the OP when that was not what he asked.

Is play money the only thing you know about money at Poker Stars.

:rofl:

Rational Madman · Oct 29, 2017

Zorba said:
Yes I am. I AM THE MIGHTY ZORBA and you just sit at home practising the dice shaking with no dice.

Who gives a shit about what you think about poker stars and what they can do, you're a dreamer, where's the graph.

Do you have a reply as to why you were talking about play money and free tables to the OP when that was not what he asked.

Is play money the only thing you know about money at Poker Stars.

:rofl:

Reported for flaming.

Zorba · Oct 29, 2017

Rational Madman said:
Oh yes you know it all.

In this case he does, because you are lying, you have no idea what poker stars will or won't do.

:rofl:

Rational Madman said:
Reported for flaming.

And you still won't reply as to why you were talking about play money when the OP was talking about real money.

Thank you for reporting it, that gives the mods a chance to see your lies. Did you use the red triangle thingy I showed you.

:rofl:

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