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Pretty sure more people know Who the president of the US is, by name, than know Beckham.

Worldwide, I know for a fact Beckham would have been more famous than George Bush. With Obama there's the whole black thing but still, there's 2 or 3 billion people in Asia and Africa who think he is literally a god.

As far as the most famous athlete ever. I doubt it. I believe that every time a question such as this comes up the answer is usually Muhammad Ali. Not a huge fan of boxing either, but certainly much more than I am a fan of soccer.

I don't know how old you are, so I wonder if your age may be skewing your perspective. While it may be fine (though debateable, to say he is the most famous athlete (outside the US, obv.) of your time, or his time, it is a HUGE statement to say he is the most famous athlete EVER. Again, this is NOT my opinion. There have actually been studies,surveys, that sort of thing done on this many times. The answers always come back Muhammad Ali. If you're not old enough to remember his classic bouts with other of the sports greats during boxing's heyday, I imagine it'll be hard for you to understand.

Oh, and I mean worldwide, not just the US. Check up on some of Ali's matches in Africa. Check how revered he still is in many African nations. Will Beckham command that respect a full generation or more after he retires?

I admit all-time may have been an overstatement, but if you did a true world-wide servey including all of Asia, it's going to be close at least.

As for the part about soccer eventually being on the same level in the US as football and baseball.....Ummm, NO. That will happen about the same time PLO replaces NLHE as the most popular form of poker.:p

Haha yeah, probably not :)

The only reason soccer is so popular worldwide is the fact that people in the poorest countries (most of the world) can play it because it requires just a ball. People in general only like watching sports they know something about, so sports they have experience playing. Thus, the world loves soccer.

Yet us in North America, are fortunate enough to have the means to play sports that require equipment and such. We don't grow up on soccer and even if we play it at recess as kids it's not part of our culture like hockey and other sports.

Basically, I figure that if the world would have grown up with the means to play other sports such as hockey or football then these sports would be much more popular than soccer because they are SOOOOO much less boring. Seriously I know I'm going to get flamed for this but I believe its true.

The world loving soccer has nothing to do with how good of game it is...just with the fact that poor people can play it.

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I still don't believe this for a second. Nothing will ever compare to throwing down jumpers and having a kick-about.

Europe is fairly rich and American Football is nothing here, hockey even less so. I think the fact that these sports have never really made much headway into Europe despite our ability to play it if we chose (I've played American Football, it's pretty cool) means it won't happen in Africa or Asia either.

Football is and always will be the greatest game on Earth, precisely because of how good the game is.
 
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I still don't believe this for a second. Nothing will ever compare to throwing down jumpers and having a kick-about.

Europe is fairly rich and American Football is nothing here, hockey even less so. I think the fact that these sports have never really made much headway into Europe despite our ability to play it if we chose (I've played American Football, it's pretty cool) means it won't happen in Africa or Asia either.

Football is and always will be the greatest game on Earth, precisely because of how good the game is.

I like you repeating everything I say :)


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I like you repeating everything I say :)


LuckChippy for president of world

Lol, by the time I write a post there's another 5 posts to read. We're obviously of very similar opinions.

Marginal for vice-president and Secretary of Awesome.
 
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Arggggg.Most North Americans will never give a flying shit about soccer "football",and never understand why the rest of the world likes this boring game.The rest of the world doesn't understand how our games football,hokey,baseball etc. are so big over here and not soccer.This will never change.
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I approve of your message and you are making me want to come to brazil. Im pretty sure I could afford it today but still would deplete funds by a lot
 
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Arggggg.Most North Americans will never give a flying shit about soccer "football",and never understand why the rest of the world likes this boring game.The rest of the world doesn't understand how our games football,hokey,baseball etc. are so big over here and not soccer.This will never change.
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This is what gets me, how can you call it boring when in baseball and American football, you stop so often.

I could understand the argument for hockey and basketball but the other 2 sports are slower than anything.
 
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Why is everyone turning into a bunch of jingoistic chauvinists?

American football is popular in the US. Canadian football is a variant and is popular in canada. TO THE REST OF THE WORLD football is what Americans call Soccer. Fine. Good. I'm glad you like it. I don't think one is better than the other, just different, just like I don't think Baseball is better than cricket. It's just different. I prefer Brunettes over Blondes. I hate NASCAR. I like my food spicy.I'm a nit. Whatever. It's just differences not a hierarchy. I will say that people outside the US who make everything into the US vs the World live in a sad, angry world. Lots of things about America suck, like no free Healthcare, a taxcode that is terribly skewed toward the rich, lack of gun controls. We have right wing nut jobs, tea party lunatics and the like.
But we also were the crucial force in the liberation of Europe from Nazi Tyranny, we turned Japan and Korea into Modern Industialized Democracies, we have lead in technological innovation, Space Exploration and economic growth. We have helped eradicate diseases all over the World and we still are the country that millions around the world aspire to emigrate to. So, that's where I grew up. I'm sure I'd be fine in Canada or the UK as well.
I like being the outsider so sitting in a pub while everyone was talking about Manchester United or whatever wouldn't turn me off. If I moved to Delhi in india I'd learn Hindi/ Urdu and Punjabi.

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The 3rd division league in England still gets a lot of support even though the play is nothing compared to the top.

Also, money has nothing to do with ice hockey, ice has something to do with it though

haha so true.

You should see some of the crazy ****ers who are essentially supporting teams that are 100th+ in their countries with all the passion they posses.

It's the same if not more passionate in every country in the world.
 
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Let's just agree to disagree
 
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Why is everyone turning into a bunch of jingoistic chauvinists?

American football is popular in the US. Canadian football is a variant and is popular in Canada. TO THE REST OF THE WORLD football is what Americans call Soccer. Fine. Good. I'm glad you like it. I don't think one is better than the other, just different, just like I don't think Baseball is better than cricket. It's just different. I prefer Brunettes over Blondes. I hate NASCAR. I like my food spicy.I'm a nit. Whatever. It's just differences not a hierarchy. I will say that people outside the US who make everything into the US vs the World live in a sad, angry world. Lots of things about America suck, like no free Healthcare, a taxcode that is terribly skewed toward the rich, lack of gun controls. We have right wing nut jobs, tea party lunatics and the like.
But we also were the crucial force in the liberation of Europe from Nazi Tyranny, we turned Japan and Korea into Modern Industialized Democracies, we have lead in technological innovation, Space Exploration and economic growth. We have helped eradicate diseases all over the World and we still are the country that millions around the world aspire to emigrate to. So, that's where I grew up. I'm sure I'd be fine in Canada or the UK as well.
I like being the outsider so sitting in a pub while everyone was talking about Manchester United or whatever wouldn't turn me off. If I moved to Delhi in India I'd learn Hindi/ Urdu and Punjabi.

Embrace difference.

I agree with pretty much all of that.

Americans do tend to make judgements having never watched it though. I've played American Football, Basketball, Football and Rugby competitively. I enjoy watching American Football sometimes, highlights are so much better which is what we usually get anyway, as watching the Super bowl in full is like a slow death.

I embrace difference, I live in Britain, you learn to respect other's religions, beliefs, race and culture pretty young. I just find it funny the general American attitude towards a game that seems to disgust them whilst having little to no knowledge of it. Whether it is below them, or it's because they're not the best in the world at it, I don't know.

I also LOVE a good debate :)
 
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Lol OMC.

football>>>>>>football imo.

But who knows which I'm talking about??? :rolleyes:
 
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When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
Born to a throne, stronger than Rome
But Violent prone, poor people zone
But it’s my home, all I have known
Where I got grown, streets we would roam
But out of the darkness, I came the farthest
Among the hardest survival
Learn from these streets, it can be bleak
Except no defeat, surrender retreat
So we struggling, fighting to eat and
We wondering when we’ll be free
So we patiently wait, for that fateful day
It’s not far away, so for now we say
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
So many wars, settling scores
Bringing us promises, leaving us poor
I heard them say, love is the way
Love is the answer, that’s what they say,
But look how they treat us, make us believers
We fight their battles, then they deceive us
Try to control us, they couldn’t hold us
Cause we just move forward like Buffalo Soldiers
But we struggling, fighting to eat
And we wondering, when we’ll be free
So we patiently wait, for that faithful day
It’s not far away, but for now we say
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
(Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhh)
And everybody will be singing it
(Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhh)
And you and I will be singing it
(Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhh)
And we all will be singing it
(Ohhh Ohh Ohh Ohh)
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
When I get older, when I get older
I will be stronger, just like a Waving Flag
Just like a Waving Flag, just like a Waving flag
Flag, flag, Just like a Waving Flag.
 
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When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
Born to a throne, stronger than Rome
But Violent prone, poor people zone
But it’s my home, all I have known
Where I got grown, streets we would roam
But out of the darkness, I came the farthest
Among the hardest survival
Learn from these streets, it can be bleak
Except no defeat, surrender retreat
So we struggling, fighting to eat and
We wondering when we’ll be free
So we patiently wait, for that fateful day
It’s not far away, so for now we say
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
So many wars, settling scores
Bringing us promises, leaving us poor
I heard them say, love is the way
Love is the answer, that’s what they say,
But look how they treat us, make us believers
We fight their battles, then they deceive us
Try to control us, they couldn’t hold us
Cause we just move forward like Buffalo Soldiers
But we struggling, fighting to eat
And we wondering, when we’ll be free
So we patiently wait, for that faithful day
It’s not far away, but for now we say
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
(Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhh)
And everybody will be singing it
(Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhh)
And you and I will be singing it
(Ohhhh Ohhhh Ohhhhh Ohhhh)
And we all will be singing it
(Ohhh Ohh Ohh Ohh)
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a Waving Flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back
When I get older, when I get older
I will be stronger, just like a Waving Flag
Just like a Waving Flag, just like a Waving flag
Flag, flag, Just like a Waving Flag.

+1. I love that song so much.
 
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give me freedom, give me fire
give me reason, take me higher
see the champions, take the field now
they define us, make us feel proud
in the streets our, heads are lifting
as we loose our, inhibition

celebration, it surround us
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True or False?

If the top US athletes played soccer the US would be a lead contender for the world cup every 4 years.


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True or False?

If the top US athletes played soccer the US would be a lead contender for the world cup every 4 years.


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Well i mean top american athletes are like 320lbs, so not sure they could run 10 miles every game :D
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Oh and Beckham is not the most famous Athlete











































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Larissa did not get naked for the Packers. /thread.



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True or False?

If the top US athletes played soccer the US would be a lead contender for the world cup every 4 years.


Just dropping in to restir the shit.

I appreciate it :)

It's actually a good question. If America had the same passion for the game as say Brazil (where it means more than life itself, it's the reason they've won it 5 times) with all the facilities and things it could generate, then it would have a chance. America has actually improved a lot over recent years at football. However it will always suffer from the same problems as Britain when it comes to creating a team that could destroy the world. We play too many different sports. We play Cricket, Rugby, some people play basketball, some play American Football. Top athletes are playing other sports than football.


America being larger though, it has a better chance if it took the game seriously. It probably never will.
 
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i live in US and i love soccer. Wat's not to like
 
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True or False?

If the top US athletes played soccer the US would be a lead contender for the world cup every 4 years.


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If train A leaves the station at 12 noon travelling East at 40 mph and Train B leaves the station at 1PM, how fast will Train B have to go to catch Train at 3PM?
 
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i live in US and i love soccer. Wat's not to like

I live in the UK and I like American football. Just football more :)

I suggest anyone in the US who says they hate football try watching a European game. Watch a good Premier league game or Barcelona. Even watching a Youtube clip of Messi will astound you.

Hundreds of millions of people from around the world tune in every week to watch the Premier league. I expect most of your experience of football comes from American teams. Watching an American Soccer match with it's commentary tilts me beyond belief.
 
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However it will always suffer from the same problems as Britain when it comes to creating a team that could destroy the world. We play too many different sports. We play Cricket, Rugby, some people play basketball, some play American Football. Top athletes are playing other sports than football.

This is particularly funny when you consider that Spain just won the world cup. Obviously they won it because they suck at tennis (world #1 player), cycling (holder of last 5 wins at Tour de france with 3 different cyclists), basketball (olympic silver holder), handball (olympic bronze holder), formula one driving (Alonso), ...
 
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no never watch american MLS games. I played my whole life basically on club teams. I have the fox soccer channel (idk if thats just a US channel) that i watch that shows European games
 
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