PLO - Hand Analysis

Marginal · Mar 1, 2013

So is anyone new to PLO, would you like to get better? Tired of playing 10plo but want to move up higher. Here's your chance to improve! Just send me a session either the text file or a video if you like and I'll analyse your play!. If its a text file, please no more than like 100 hands.

Also, lets get some PLO discussion going again.

RamdeeBen · Mar 1, 2013

Ok, this makes me wanna play PLO again if I have a decent player who's gonna given feedback on my shockingly bad played hands

Gonna record a session maybe today.. or at least some hands ;D

n1 marg :>

youregoodmate · Mar 1, 2013

I wouldnt even know where to start...

dj11 · Mar 1, 2013

If I were to record a video session, what program would you prefer I use?

xdeucesx · Mar 1, 2013

The new 2013 PLO Thread!!!

+1000 to get some PLO discussion going again

Marginal · Mar 1, 2013

dj11 said:
If I were to record a video session, what program would you prefer I use?

not important to me as long as it plays on vlc etc and has audio

sir_lagalot · Mar 2, 2013

what would be a decent video recorder for an online poker game ? I havent played PLO in a few months but would love to get back in it if it means receiving feedback.

Marginal · Mar 2, 2013

Um, camstudio is fine, you can get a 30 day trial I think

S93 · Mar 2, 2013

pwwww.
Surely analyzing any plo hand is, hmm I have about 50% equity. And here I have 49% equity, wowowowowowowow I have 51% equity lets jam this shit!

RamdeeBen · Mar 2, 2013

Got a video..need to work out where to put it now lol.

Hopefully with have this sorted and uploaded within the next few days.

Marginal · Mar 2, 2013

S93 said:
pwwww.
Surely analyzing any plo hand is, hmm I have about 50% equity. And here I have 49% equity, wowowowowowowow I have 51% equity lets jam this shit!

Shhh we have to make it seem more difficult than that

kworm2013 · Mar 2, 2013

It sounds good to improve skills.It is a hard work.I suggest you choose some hand to analysis on the forums.

snklzona · Mar 8, 2013

I am not yet allowed to play the cardschat tournaments but why not try and get a cardschat PLO game...even if ( probably better if it isn't ) not financially sponsered by cardschat why not a tourney made up of CC PLO players??? I know this is probably just a dumb newbie idea but hey its mine...

Edit: reason being is after it was over hands could be disected by PLO guru and so not only fun but learning experience...

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 8, 2013

sick bump, im just learning how to get good at PLO as of late

marg if this is still on ill ship you a vid in a week or so hopefully

Marginal · Mar 11, 2013

This will be open for as long as possible

Marginal · Mar 11, 2013

Also lets use this as Hand Discussion thread as well.

First, what you guys think of this. Like I just want you guys to look at the percentages at the bottom for both flop and turn

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($79.17)
BB ($92.70)
Hero ($125)
UTG+1 ($168)
CO ($71.65)
BTN ($125)

CO antes $0.10
BTN antes $0.10
SB antes $0.10
BB antes $0.10
Hero antes $0.10
UTG+1 antes $0.10

Dealt to Hero 7:diamond: 5:spade: K:diamond: 6:club:

Hero raises to $2, fold, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

FLOP ($10.60) 5:heart: 9:spade: 8:spade:

SB checks, BB bets $3, Hero raises to $17, CO folds, BTN calls $17, SB folds, BB folds

TURN ($47.60) 5:heart: 9:spade: 8:spade: K:club:

Hero bets $45.46, BTN raises to $105 (AI), Hero calls $60.44 (AI)

RIVER ($259) 5:heart: 9:spade: 8:spade: K:club: 4:club:

BTN shows J:heart: A:spade: Q:spade: T:heart:
(Pre 60%, Flop 67.7%, Turn 40.0%)

Hero shows 7:diamond: 5:spade: K:diamond: 6:club:
(Pre 40%, Flop 32.3%, Turn 60.0%)

Hero wins $256

rhombus · Mar 11, 2013

Looking at the hand and looking over the percenages kind f makes sense when you have time to analyse but in real play if you were multiplaying then difficult to assess.
One thing I have learned is when there is a flush draw and you have the nut straight the flush draw kills your equity against ranges.
IMO Hero overplayed hand on flop as they could have been easily freerolled and button should have re-reraised.

BLACKSTACK · Mar 11, 2013

the K on the turn really helps out the straight I would have played the same but would be nervous of the river catching the nut flush or higher straight and even a fh if he had a pp.
As for the percentages I would of believed my chances where a bit lower on the turn.

Marginal · Mar 11, 2013

rhombus said:
Looking at the hand and looking over the percenages kind f makes sense when you have time to analyse but in real play if you were multiplaying then difficult to assess.
One thing I have learned is when there is a flush draw and you have the nut straight the flush draw kills your equity against ranges.
IMO Hero overplayed hand on flop as they could have been easily freerolled and button should have re-reraised.

Secondly its not overplayed since most players are getting it in with sets here and just dry nut flush draws. Yea occassionally someone will be freerolling me but its not going to be as often as you think. Plus the hand is super easy to get away from. Villain just showed up with the absolute nut draw possible. I mean calling isnt bad but I rather play high variance than passive here. I want to get money from sets etc and its harder to do that on later streets.

BLACKSTACK said:
the K on the turn really helps out the straight I would have played the same but would be nervous of the river catching the nut flush or higher straight and even a fh if he had a pp.
As for the percentages I would of believed my chances where a bit lower on the turn.

the K just adds only 3 outs to villain.

rhombus · Mar 11, 2013

Is there a big difference between PLO 6Max and Zoom/Rush My stats are all over the place seem to do OK on Pokerstars Regular and lose on the Zoom tables and on Full Tilt kind of mixed can you help with my stats

Thanks
Pics are
Pokerstars PLO 6Max
Pokerstars PLO Zoom
Full Tilt PLO 6Max
Full Tilt PLO Rush

Marginal · Mar 11, 2013

i mean this is probably hard to say because in PLO there are many different styles that work. But firstly your playing a lot of hands, now if you show me positional stats and show that its mainly in position that is fine but your not raising enough preflop, I know its tempting to just limp and see flops but you want to be a lot more aggressive in position and raising a lot instead of limping. Rather be slightly tighter and more aggressive.

Also your 3 bet is just way too low, it basically means you only 3 bet AAxx type hands.

Marginal · Mar 11, 2013

Also hard to say again but WTSD is pretty stardard, statistically you wanna be around that 30% mark but again, dont go looking to make it happen. just analyse it afterwards to know why it is that high/ low etc.

rhombus · Mar 11, 2013

Dealt to Hero 7♦ 5♠ K♦ 6♣

Hero raises to $2, fold, CO calls $2, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

FLOP ($10.60) 5♥ 9♠ 8♠

SB checks, BB bets $3, Hero raises to $17, CO folds, BTN bets Pot, SB folds, BB folds
So if the Button Pot Bets the FLop when you Raise to $17 do you fold or call and reevaluate on the turn.

Sorry dont know what the pot bet would be on FLop by Button?

Marginal · Mar 11, 2013

Pot bet would be 45 more. Call and get it in on a blank turn is the most profitable play. If board pairs/ FD hit its an easy fold.

I mean he also shows up with the absolute top of a range here and the fact that he didnt 3 bet preflop is another reason we cant exactly put him on that hand.

BLACKSTACK · Mar 11, 2013

[QUOTE. the K just adds only 3 outs to villain.[/QUOTE]

I meant it gives Us a couple more outs for a fh.
I'm pretty much new at Omaha but why do fish get so excited when they get AAxx?, and go all in with a wet flop like 5h6h8h then call you a donk for beating they're pair of aces with a straight, flush or trips.

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