Should I raise AA in late position?

lovetherivergods · Jun 7, 2006

Hey,

I've been raising pocket AA in late position, and everytime I feel like there's no point to raise because everyone folds so I get no action...just wasted my best opportunity.

The one time I remember not raising I was playing on Poker Syndicate, and made a fortune. Flop came A 7 Q. The BB had AQ and just called, and obviously I took a fortune from him.

What's your thoughts, raise AA in late position?

AceZWylD · Jun 7, 2006

Raise. More often than not, AA is only a great hand pre flop. Too much can happen with AA that make it a losing hand, so you want to give yourself every advantage possible. If people fold around you, then you still won the hand, which is the main objective. Sometimes you will profit, sometimes you won't, but you live to fight another battle.

Sammyv1 · Jun 7, 2006

Well, I guess your always supposed to play your hands differently. So raising with AA preflop ALL the time is probably not correct. But thats what I do. I just can't limp with them. You say every time, I'm wondering how many times that is? One of our superior members (FP) here wrote this in the blog about limping with AA. Check it out:

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ChuckTs · Jun 7, 2006

I agree with sammy. There's no rule set in stone that applies to raising AA in LP, or to any other situation for that matter.
I think it depends on who's in the blinds, what your table image is, what the stack sizes are, etc. (i'm also assuming that the table has folded to you; i don't think there's ever a situation that you should limp behind someone in LP unless you're %100 sure that someone after you will raise)
If your opponents are crazy re-raising maniacs, then a button raise is perfect. He'll probably put you on a steal, and re-raise you if he's that type of player.
If the blinds are tight passive players, then maybe a PF limp would work better, though i really don't like limping with aces.
Your table image is also a factor; if you've been stealing alot of pots, then again a raise would be perfect. People will probably put you on another steal.
If you've been really tight, then a raise would probably set alarm bells of in their head, so they prob. won't call.

19RK64 · Oct 4, 2007

yes-but try to hold back on goin all in

Egon Towst · Oct 4, 2007

You don`t want to be playing with AA in an unraised pot, and therefore limping is usually poor play.

However, it is acceptable if there is an aggressive player to act after you, and you can have high confidence that he will raise. In that case, you can achieve the primary aims of building the pot, driving out limpers and simplifying to one (or at most two) opponents whilst also disguising the strength of your hand.

Katie Kards · Oct 4, 2007

Definitely raise. It's better to win a small pot then to lose a big one, and it is rare that AA will win you a big pot if you don't raise preflop. Allowing the blinds to see a cheap flop gives them a chance to make a better hand than yours, and if they don't, it is unlikely that they will pay you off.

hott_estelle · Oct 4, 2007

lovetherivergods said:
Hey,

I've been raising pocket AA in late position, and everytime I feel like there's no point to raise because everyone folds so I get no action...just wasted my best opportunity.

The one time I remember not raising I was playing on Poker Syndicate, and made a fortune. Flop came A 7 Q. The BB had AQ and just called, and obviously I took a fortune from him.

What's your thoughts, raise AA in late position?

Depends on the situation, the table, your chip stack, cash game v. tourney play, agression factor at the table, ect, ect, ect.

There is no specific way to play AA preflop, even from late position. There are just too many factors that will play into the decision of just exactly how to play AA in any given situation, so, there is no way to answer this question.

Post some HHs with specific situations, it will be easier to give you an idea of how to play AA for those given situations.

nicolas65 · Oct 5, 2007

gotta mix it up, but when you do slowplay them, you have to carefully gauge what the blinds might hold, and be ready to fold if you've got a good read. most times, people play them like the nuts all the way to the river while slowplaying and that'll kill ya. i did it last night and let KJ bust me out on the river with a third jack.

rizziller · Oct 7, 2007

I''ll always raise AA preflop, too much can happen as the cards come out to hurt the hand.

111-THEMAD-111 · Oct 7, 2007

Egon Towst said:
You don`t want to be playing with AA in an unraised pot, and therefore limping is usually poor play.

However, it is acceptable if there is an aggressive player to act after you, and you can have high confidence that he will raise. In that case, you can achieve the primary aims of building the pot, driving out limpers and simplifying to one (or at most two) opponents whilst also disguising the strength of your hand.

I like this answer the best................

i win sometimes · Oct 7, 2007

If there were a few limpers before you I might raise to double the BB, but if there was only 1 limper I will usually call and hope he pairs on the flop.

bobban147 · Oct 7, 2007

depends. more than one other person in to see the flop, id raise atleast 5x the blind in online poker. if only one other giuy...trap him

but dont be stubborn and call something stupid

soonerdel · Oct 7, 2007

i always want to at least isolate one player when having pocket aces.. too many in the pot means too many ways to lose with them.

ragu928 · Oct 9, 2007

try raising one and a half times the big blind that works more often then not

brettstix · Oct 9, 2007

Limping gives you no read on the other players hand. I would rather win a small pot with everyone folding than lose a big pot because the big blind flopped 2 pair on his unraised rags.

tomix · Oct 9, 2007

Sorry i do not care to read the thread, but to answer the original question

Q: Should I raise AA in late position?
A: No, you should FOLD AA, especially in late position.

snrcreech · Oct 9, 2007

I'm of the opinion you should always raise AA unless you have the ability to fold it, which most players don't. It's always better to get no action than to get the action that will beat you.

zachvac · Oct 9, 2007

tomix said:
Sorry i do not care to read the thread, but to answer the original question

Q: Should I raise AA in late position?
A: No, you should FOLD AA, especially in late position.

Especially when I'm playing at the same table.

tufat23 · Oct 9, 2007

if they always fold, its cos you dont raise enough hands. theres a deeper underlying reason why u arent making money and to get better u need to think why

vanquish · Oct 9, 2007

tufat23 said:
if they always fold, its cos you dont raise enough hands. theres a deeper underlying reason why u arent making money and to get better u need to think why

^^

Raising light helps you get paid big time with monster hands. (I learned this from playing 6max/heads-up and watching some good players).

dresturn2 · Oct 19, 2007

depends

i would raise if there were already two or more players in but if there is no one in i would just call.

Bentheman87 · Oct 19, 2007

With AA in late position, I like to either raise 2x BB or limp. With kings I would usually raise 3x bb. If one of the blinds is a very aggressive player, limp with AA because there is a good chance he will raise you. The other day, I had AA in the small blind, and the big blind was an aggressive player. I limped in, and sure enough he raised. I made a small reraise, and he reraised all in, I called, and he had 10 6 offsuit. Had I raised first preflop he would have folded.

The reason I raise 2x the BB in late position is because its a much easier bet for the players to call. Say I'm on the button and I raise 2x bb in a no ante game. The big blind would be getting 3.5:1 pot odds, but for any hand he has, he will be a worse than 3.5:1 underdog. 2 undercards is a 4.9:1 dog and a lower pair is a 4.5:1 dog.

vanquish · Oct 19, 2007

Bentheman87 said:
With AA in late position, I like to either raise 2x BB or limp. With kings I would usually raise 3x bb. If one of the blinds is a very aggressive player, limp with AA because there is a good chance he will raise you. The other day, I had AA in the small blind, and the big blind was an aggressive player. I limped in, and sure enough he raised. I made a small reraise, and he reraised all in, I called, and he had 10 6 offsuit. Had I raised first preflop he would have folded.

The reason I raise 2x the BB in late position is because its a much easier bet for the players to call. Say I'm on the button and I raise 2x bb in a no ante game. The big blind would be getting 3.5:1 pot odds, but for any hand he has, he will be a worse than 3.5:1 underdog. 2 undercards is a 4.9:1 dog and a lower pair is a 4.5:1 dog.

The problem with this strategy is that you will almost never be able to put your opponent on a hand (minraise gives BB good enough odds to call any two cards - he obviously doesn't know you have AA), and you could stack off easily after his trash hand hits a big flop and you have no idea what he has. (ie: you min-raise, he calls, from comes 942, he check-raises you all-in, does he have you beat? tough decision).

pantin007 · Oct 19, 2007

AS the saying goes win a small pot with aces or lose a big one if u dont raise and the big blind checks his options with some crap like 26 off and flop comes 2 q 6 u lose a hefty amount so i guess u sacrafice the big pots to win small ones never could be too safe

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