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Guys, I just had a really tough night combined with a tough week on the felt. I don't know how god awful i can possibly run but Im guessing insanely awful~

It's 2/3 game 300 buy in i have 600 effective (oop) villian has 600 effective (oop)

I have a5 suited hearts utg in a straddle pot, i bet out 20$, cutoff calls and villian calls on button. Flop is Ac, 5c, 9d
I bet out 50$ into $110, cutoff folds, villian makes $148 (raise).

What is my play here? I went all-in by the way for $600 really hoping that he has AK,AQ,8c6c, etc. I did at the time have a very bluff looking image by the way. He was just playing normal no bluffs raising normal hands etc. He does call by the way but want too know answers first for outcome.
 
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PokerPlayerAaron1982 said:
Guys, I just had a really tough night combined with a tough week on the felt. I don't know how god awful i can possibly run but Im guessing insanely awful~

It's 2/3 game 300 buy in i have 600 effective (oop) villian has 600 effective (oop)

I have a5 suited hearts utg in a straddle pot, i bet out 20$, cutoff calls and villian calls on button. Flop is Ac, 5c, 9d
I bet out 50$ into $110, cutoff folds, villian makes $148 (raise).

What is my play here? I went all-in by the way for $600 really hoping that he has AK,AQ,8c6c, etc. I did at the time have a very bluff looking image by the way. He was just playing normal no bluffs raising normal hands etc. He does call by the way but want too know answers first for outcome.
If you hold most of combos for this flop, having hit two pair, which hands do you expect villain to be raising?
Villain would hold some bluffs with combos os flush draws of clubs and you should not expect many combos of AK and AQ, these combos would’ve squeezed preflop IP most of times, given the fact that Hero UTG raises and CO calls, and AK, AQ, AJ, etc will not play very well in a 3-way pot.
When you jam the flop you are turning a very strong value hand (two pair) into a bluff, and I cannot see the reason why.
We also don’t expect Villain could be holding many AA, for the same reason it would have squeezed AK and AQ and because you are blocking part of his combinations that could’ve trapped Hero preflop...
It rests sets with 55 and 99. Villain would not have a bunch of these as well for you own removal against it. It rests 99 and A9, which are top two and villain could’ve raised for protection against the draw of clubs.
I don’t expect many combos of 8c6c to be playing like this.
In your position I would’ve called the check-raise on the flop and see what the turn brings. I would check the turn even if it comes another Ax or 5x and wait for villain’s action.
Besides, you said yourself villain wasn’t bluffing too often, raising normal and had a solid image at the table.
You already gave us the outcome unintentionally, by saying it was a tough night and a tough week, plus “insanely awful”.
If you had a tough week you should not be playing, but resting and preparing your mindset to play another time, when you would feel yourself more strong psychologically.
Considering the fact that both hero and villain are deep stacked, it seems a lot as you tilted and made a crazy move because your mind wasn’t playing in hands with your body.
I wish you more attention and discipline, so you’ll get there.
 
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PokerPlayerAaron1982 said:
Guys, I just had a really tough night combined with a tough week on the felt. I don't know how god awful i can possibly run but Im guessing insanely awful~

It's 2/3 game 300 buy in i have 600 effective (oop) villian has 600 effective (oop)

I have a5 suited hearts utg in a straddle pot, i bet out 20$, cutoff calls and villian calls on button. Flop is Ac, 5c, 9d
I bet out 50$ into $110, cutoff folds, villian makes $148 (raise).

What is my play here? I went all-in by the way for $600 really hoping that he has AK,AQ,8c6c, etc. I did at the time have a very bluff looking image by the way. He was just playing normal no bluffs raising normal hands etc. He does call by the way but want too know answers first for outcome.
Since you were facing a solid player like you said, who is apparently playing straightforward and who had called an UTG raise pre-flop, then raised your continuation bet, you should've re-evaluated and proceeded with caution. That raise from that kind of player, on that kind of flop only means he has you beat. Even if you're holding some blockers there, he is still could've called your pre-flop raise with 99, A9 or even 55 having noticed that you've been bluffing (As you said), AA is not to be excluded from his range either. And with the A out there, it's not very likely that he would come up with such a raise with something like KK,AA,JJ ...
Calling his raise and seeing the turn was probably the more reasonable approach, only because aces up was a too strong hand to fold.
 
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Yes guys. He had A9 unfortunately. And he scooped. It didn't help that a few hands before that I had lost a $300 All in on the flop with A5 against a9 on an a,,5,9 flop as well. I swear this game can just be so cruel. 2x in a row exact hands. I ran the hand through a solver. And yes A9 and 99 make perfect sense given his range and his stack size. I guess imo. Thank you guys for the input. This game is rough.
 
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PokerPlayerAaron1982 said:
Yes guys. He had A9 unfortunately. And he scooped. It didn't help that a few hands before that I had lost a $300 All in on the flop with A5 against a9 on an a,,5,9 flop as well. I swear this game can just be so cruel. 2x in a row exact hands. I ran the hand through a solver. And yes A9 and 99 make perfect sense given his range and his stack size. I guess imo. Thank you guys for the input. This game is rough.
I dont hate the 3bet if you were shallower and villain would likely have lots of draws, but when you lose to all of villains value it's best just to call with a bluff catcher (potentially calling down or folding later streets, depending on runout and action)
 
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Yes guys. He had A9 unfortunately. And he scooped. It didn't help that a few hands before that I had lost a $300 All in on the flop with A5 against a9 on an a,,5,9 flop as well. I swear this game can just be so cruel. 2x in a row exact hands. I ran the hand through a solver. And yes A9 and 99 make perfect sense given his range and his stack size. I guess imo. Thank you guys for the input. This game is rough.
Bad run, but you do the right thing, in this spot you still win te hand the most part of the time. Just think how many times the villain has A9 or sets, and how many times he does this with Ax and ALL combo/draws
 
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Understanding what hand an opponent has in online poker is not so easy - try to analyze how quickly he responds to a bet. Poker is a game that you need to learn to play all your life. However, how you read your opponent is only half the battle. Don't let yourself be read.
 
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Bad run, but you do the right thing, in this spot you still win te hand the most part of the time. Just think how many times the villain has A9 or sets, and how many times he does this with Ax and ALL combo/draws
Thanks for your input. With all due respect, allow me to be candid about this specific situation. It is not a bad run. It is a bad play. The player itself had informed us that he had a pretty tough week and in my opinion he got stressed, nervous, and in poker, we use to call this a TILT.
Hero was deep stacked and Villain realized it and exploited it to the end. I do not agree to Villain’s move as well, but considering the specific scenario where Hero is nervous, villain caught up in a glance and shoves the flop right off the bat for pure exploitation.
I also think it’s wrong to incentivize players who clearly show us they had a mental breakdown to continue to lose their chips, instead of quit playing and look for professional advice.
As described, villain is not a fish and he wouldn’t have played like this with any Ax or combo draws. If villain hadn’t very clear in his mind that our hero was psychologically compromised, he wouldn’t d have gone all-in OTF deep stacked. Villain wouldn’t have do it neither owning two pair.
And remember, this is almost a high stakes game, and a deep stacked pot.
A bad run is a situation when we are playing correctly, with the pot odds/equity by our side, and Hero cold calls a push OTF losing infinitely times more than winning, which is a losing move, caused by a mental weakness that can occur in any serious poker player. This is the main object of the hand.
 
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