Would you fold KK ?

Syltan · Sep 14, 2019

I don’t think that I could manage to fold KK in such a situation. Perhaps this is my weakness.

mike1113 · Aug 17, 2020

Even if you're not happy about it, in this spot you simply have to call. There's 1 possible hand your opponent could have that crushes you, but every other hand you're way out in front. KK you have to go with pretty much always and if you happen to run into AA you have to just accept defeat and take the cooler. Might not be happy about it but you just have to go with KK preflop pretty much all the time

SightUnseen · Aug 17, 2020

If you're the hero with Kings 3betting to 480 and the action goes as described with stack to pot ratio I can't ever see folding. You get these big hands praying for action like this in these spots. If you're against Aces, so be it, that's what bankroll management is for right? No matter what hand you're against you still have outs and equity. I don't see myself ever folding, Run The Cards.

Jim_Saras · Aug 18, 2020

Shoving for 2 reasons.
1. When he folds you win a healthy pot without even running the hand.
2. When he calls you're 80% favourite against any other pair and 20% underdog against AA - then it's 70% in your favor against any other ace like AK AQ AJ etc

Another thing that can help you with your decision is if you have any info on how this guy plays you can make a better assumption on whether or not he has the aces. For example if he 3bets very light it's a pretty easy shove. If he is very conservative then you can call and see a flop. And who knows you might make him fold AA later on in the hand. (If he is that conservative)

scrappypower · Aug 18, 2020

it all depends yes i have before but i was in a free league we play for points alot different then from money

Ac156519 · Aug 18, 2020

Would you fold KK?

Would I fold KK? It depends on My position and stack size to my opponent. If I have my opponent covered by 3:1 chip stack and have position on him I will shove on my opponent. On the other hand, if my opponent has me covered and has position on me, I would fold my KK.

RimworldDoctor · Aug 18, 2020

Ac156519 said:
Would I fold KK? It depends on My position and stack size to my opponent. If I have my opponent covered by 3:1 chip stack and have position on him I will shove on my opponent. On the other hand, if my opponent has me covered and has position on me, I would fold my KK.

While stack size and position are important, I feel like this is an EV negative play in the long run. You're only an underdog to aces—which are dealt only 0.45% of the time. If you're short stacked, it seems like you should be playing more aggressively so your opponents don't bleed you dry.

Also, hey. I see you in tourneys sometimes and you seem to play well. Good luck!

619Leafs · Aug 18, 2020

Any time I get dealt Kings, I don't want to mess around. Time to shove.

tigana071 · Aug 18, 2020

NolwennC said:
NLH 15/30. Dealt to Hero: KK. SB raised to 120. Hero 3bet 480 on HJ(REM. Stack: 2030). SB 4bet 2520. BB calls. Action back to you. WHAT IS YOUR PLAY?

100% I will all in

Mariadelaluz · Aug 27, 2020

Difficult to fold it...

tonzinho7620 · Aug 27, 2020

AA E KK these hands I don't see the need to fold, shove and pray

medusegorgon · Aug 27, 2020

Depends on aggression of my opponent, so honestly I would fold cause I had some cases of unlucks with KK in my past.

samsonand · Aug 27, 2020

I always do it if they are KK or AA I do it without thinking and 90% always comes out well and I win a lot of chips but likewise a bad beat can knock me down hahahaha it is variance I always said it

Max Diver · Aug 29, 2020

On that situation I call ! KK is very strong. If you faced AA too bad. It s very low chance to happen that.
Cheers,
M.D.

gon4iypes · Aug 29, 2020

i think I would be happy he built the pot so nicely for me and call for sure

zorro222_zorro222 · Aug 29, 2020

There's only a few spots where I would consider folding such as the person your playing is a mega nit and/or it's the wsop main event bubble or something like that, otherwise you should be happy about getting it in...

newelis74 · Aug 29, 2020

Rarely, it's very difficult ... But if I'm sure the other player has AA ???
Still it's difficult ...
Always talking about playing allin preflop obviously, it could depend a lot on the moment in the tournament and the statistics of the villain-

LSTBrand · Aug 29, 2020

if there is an A at the flop yes...
Normaly keep pushing and winning

Mohamed48 · Aug 29, 2020

Without thinking or analysis ALL IN

Dimission · Aug 29, 2020

No, i would never fold them as starting cards. Perhaps if there is an A on the board, i may fold in certain situations.

partz · Aug 29, 2020

This is a legit call. Thanks

AizenFalck · Aug 29, 2020

I would never fold a KK, starting because your probability of winning is super high, ending because simply NO, you don't fold a KK lol.

UM3SH · Aug 29, 2020

You can definitely go all-in with pocket Kings Pre-flop.

Note : If a tighter player in table goes all-in before you. You might fold pocket Kings because he can have pocket Aces.

MickGreed · Aug 29, 2020

yep I would call, thats gambling lol

theRaven68 · Aug 29, 2020

I will go all-in preflop with KK but I will not call with As on flop

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