Zoom or Regular (cash)

_xgeb_ · Mar 9, 2020

Nathan Williams said:
Short answer:

Zoom is better for a hardcore grinder who wants to put in a ton of hands and get to the long run faster. Zoom is also good for a recreational player who just wants the convenience of sitting down and playing right away.

Regular tables are better for somebody who wants to table select, have a higher winrate and ultimately reduce their variance.

For me personally, I prefer regular tables, but it is an individual decision. You can find my complete guide to Zoom poker strategy for 2020 right here:

https://www.blackrain79.com/2015/07/zoom-poker-strategy-essential-guide.html

Nathan, excellent article. I read it all. And I learned many new things. I write your page to continue reading. Tremendous photo playing on the beach, wanting to be like this! haha Greetings genius!

fundiver199 · Mar 9, 2020

Just want to add, that Zoom does not exist in live poker, and in online tournaments its a rare format, which is usually capped to very low buyins like 1-2$. So if you see online cash games as a way to prepare for tournaments or live games, then it does not make a lot of sense to spend time developing a strategy for Zoom.

walkkking · Mar 10, 2020

I think the zoom is better because faster and you can play more table !

zlajazlaja2 · Mar 12, 2020

i like both but i play regular poker more than zoom

Evan Jarvis · Mar 13, 2020

_xgeb_ said:
which one do you play? Which one is better for you?

I currently play zoom tables because I like to get a lot of hands in. I find that when one has a very solid strategy that doesn't require reads on their opponents to be profitable then zoom is great because you can get in 4x the volume you can on regular tables. It's also great for grinding out a lot of rakeback and just printing your EV edge over a ton of hands.

That being said, for a very long time I preferred playing regular tables for 2 reasons.
#1 I could get better reads on my opponents and a feel for their play style
#2 I could play at a calmer pace (zoom is quite fast with multiple tables and is kind of like riding a big wave)

On regular tables I can earn a higher winrate because of all the added information and for the fact I have more time to think thru my decisions. That being said, my hourly is certainly higher on zoom despite the lower winrate because I get way more volume in.

My mind has to work harder, and so my sessions are shorter, but that's just the way I stay balanced and get the most out of the time I put in.

Here's a video I made on the topic a little while ago, hope you enjoy it!

_xgeb_ · Mar 13, 2020

Evan Jarvis said:
I currently play zoom tables because I like to get a lot of hands in. I find that when one has a very solid strategy that doesn't require reads on their opponents to be profitable then zoom is great because you can get in 4x the volume you can on regular tables. It's also great for grinding out a lot of rakeback and just printing your EV edge over a ton of hands.

That being said, for a very long time I preferred playing regular tables for 2 reasons.
#1 I could get better reads on my opponents and a feel for their play style
#2 I could play at a calmer pace (zoom is quite fast with multiple tables and is kind of like riding a big wave)

On regular tables I can earn a higher winrate because of all the added information and for the fact I have more time to think thru my decisions. That being said, my hourly is certainly higher on zoom despite the lower winrate because I get way more volume in.

My mind has to work harder, and so my sessions are shorter, but that's just the way I stay balanced and get the most out of the time I put in.

Here's a video I made on the topic a little while ago, hope you enjoy it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmNGXkPY_5I

Thanks, very clear information. And another question, how do you identify the play styles of the players at cash tables?

Evan Jarvis · Mar 13, 2020

_xgeb_ said:
Thanks, very clear information. And another question, how do you identify the play styles of the players at cash tables?

Invest in a program like pokertracker

And use the tactics in this video as well

_xgeb_ · Mar 13, 2020

Evan Jarvis said:
Invest in a program like pokertracker

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wdBrbsrmzoI&index=17&list=PLBrNnyWekagMpkljGANXALnZcmLanFwHU

And use the tactics in this video as well

Excellent video !! It helped me a lot. I will incorporate them to mark the players and thus be able to exploit them even more. Greetings, thanks for your time:wavey::wavey:

tihomir_kula · Mar 13, 2020

To play zoom is useful for reactions.10 to 1 I think.

makisaa · Mar 13, 2020

I prefer zoom type when there is available, but I play and the regular too. Zoom is faster and has more action!

Kmason531 · Mar 14, 2020

Depends. For me I prefer Blitz on ACR over the regular tables because wait lists are ridiculous and there are only ever at most 3-4 tables going at 200NL, whereas the Blitz Pool usually has over 50 entries and IMO isn't any more difficult than the regular tables. On Ignition I hate the Zone games because you have 15 seconds with 0 time bank and the complete anonymity makes it impossible to exploitatively do anything.

The Monkey · Mar 14, 2020

I do recognize that there are advantages to having quantity when it comes to the amount of poker hands you play in a given session, But in my opinion I like to stick to regular cash games because all it takes is one hand for your entire Stack to be eliminated.because of this, in Zoom poker you can lose multiple Stacks very quickly because you see a larger number of hands in a shorter time frame.

Considering all that, I would stick to playing regular cash games unless you have a bankroll of at least 100 buyins for the stakes you are playing. this way your entire bankroll would not be affected negatively too much if you lost several hands for your stack in Zoom poker.

Bleeis · Mar 18, 2020

cash is more explotative
zoom is more hands per hour, if you win nl2 play zoom

ekt0rac · Mar 21, 2020

i enjoy 2 zoom tables when i play , i find it gives me enough action to not get bored

Comboss599 · Mar 21, 2020

Prefer regular game but sometimes play a zoom. This kind of game is much more quicker. Don't have to wait for your queue.

AllenKll · Mar 21, 2020

I always lose money at zoom, where I usually break even or make money in cash games. I'm not sure the reasoning, but zoom is just too much for me.

It's a bit overwhelming with the speed at which it plays, and since you can't get a read on the players it's hard to play anything other than ABC poker. And ABC poke is a losing game with a high rake.

pauloandre100 · Mar 21, 2020

Zoom because as you go up the limits, it becomes more difficult to find regular tables.

Sintubai · Mar 21, 2020

Recently i play cash zoom more times. When i have short time to play is a nice option! Have so many actions, but is more dificult to read your opponents and bluff..

fundiver199 · Mar 22, 2020

Kmason531 said:
Depends. For me I prefer Blitz on ACR over the regular tables because wait lists are ridiculous and there are only ever at most 3-4 tables going at 200NL, whereas the Blitz Pool usually has over 50 entries and IMO isn't any more difficult than the regular tables.

That makes sense, and with only 50 players in the pool its easy to get reads even at fast fold tables, since you will see the same people again and again. But if you play micro or low stakes on PokerStars, then the Zoom pools are huge, and its not exactly like, there is any shortage of regular tables running.

stylebender72 · Mar 22, 2020

zoom for sure

Popescu97 · Mar 23, 2020

I always like cash games between the zoom,cash are more relaxing

kingofnaps · Mar 23, 2020

zoom if available. more hands = getting better faster, and also more fun

Darth_Moola · Mar 24, 2020

I like the action of Zoom, but I honestly win more playing regular cash. After I win at some regular cash tables I think I can just multiply it by playing zoom and I always end up losing in the long run.

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