AA vs KK

Jack Reacher · Jul 8, 2018

Hello guys,im interested how much percent is the chance in tournament poker that when i hold KK someone else is holding AA?

Nikolay Nakhaev · Jul 8, 2018

Jack Reacher said:
Hello guys,im interested how much percent is the chance in tournament poker that when i hold KK someone else is holding AA?

We have already discussed this issue in this forum.
find him. there is a lot of information from the players, read the discussion. it was very interesting to participate. many opinions on this issue.
in general, the chance with KK against AA is always there, but not high.
on my practice in the game very often on the table is A or K .

Mikeloti13 · Jul 8, 2018

Nikolay thats not his question. He asks what is the chance that when he has KK someone else at the table has AA in the same hand. Now the answer. It should be only a slight chance of that happening but on pokerstars, you get that every other tournament.

jus7_play3r · Jul 8, 2018

Unfortunately very often and it is very bad, at least it does not happen in tournaments with big money because it is very bad, and it's very difficult to fold anyway KK pre-flop

Jack Reacher · Jul 9, 2018

Nikolay Nakhaev said:
We have already discussed this issue in this forum.
find him. there is a lot of information from the players, read the discussion. it was very interesting to participate. many opinions on this issue.
in general, the chance with KK against AA is always there, but not high.
on my practice in the game very often on the table is A or K .

That's not what i'm asking.

Jack Reacher · Jul 9, 2018

Mikeloti13 said:
Nikolay thats not his question. He asks what is the chance that when he has KK someone else at the table has AA in the same hand. Now the answer. It should be only a slight chance of that happening but on pokerstars, you get that every other tournament.

Can you bring up your answer in percents?

Jack Reacher · Jul 9, 2018

jus7_play3r said:
Unfortunately very often and it is very bad, at least it does not happen in tournaments with big money because it is very bad, and it's very difficult to fold anyway KK pre-flop

How then you earn money to play big tournaments when you are get frosted in the small ones?

Mikeloti13 · Jul 9, 2018

This requires math that i dont have time to bother with. Lets just say its very low chance of it happening.

Nikolay Nakhaev · Jul 9, 2018

Jack Reacher said:
That's not what i'm asking.

The probability that you or an opponent will get AA at hand is 0.45%.
The probability of obtaining KK is about 0.9%
proceed from this.
or did I misunderstand your question again?
for this there are probability tables and on them you can already think whether there is against your KK from opponent AA .

Iryna Stryzheuskaya · Jul 9, 2018

The chance is not great, but I often see this situation.

Brauner · Jul 9, 2018

Online V. Live

There seems to be a disparity between live and Online Software. Online seems to happen more often then i've seen live.

sinatruces · Jul 10, 2018

if your cards and him card was suited about
45% KK
55% AA
In preflop

Jack Reacher · Jul 10, 2018

Mikeloti13 said:
This requires math that i dont have time to bother with. Lets just say its very low chance of it happening.

Math is the mother of the poker.

Jack Reacher · Jul 10, 2018

Nikolay Nakhaev said:
The probability that you or an opponent will get AA at hand is 0.45%.
The probability of obtaining KK is about 0.9%
proceed from this.
or did I misunderstand your question again?
for this there are probability tables and on them you can already think whether there is against your KK from opponent AA .

Now you are a little bit closer, wtf are probability tables???

Jack Reacher · Jul 10, 2018

Iryna Stryzheuskaya said:
The chance is not great, but I often see this situation.

That's exactly why i asked this question.

Nikolay Nakhaev · Jul 10, 2018

Jack Reacher said:
Now you are a little bit closer, wtf are probability tables???

Yes. distribution of these hands from you or opponents.
From this you can always continue.

Jack Reacher · Jul 10, 2018

Brauner said:
There seems to be a disparity between live and Online Software. Online seems to happen more often then i've seen live.

How much often?

Jack Reacher · Jul 10, 2018

sinatruces said:
if your cards and him card was suited about
45% KK
55% AA
In preflop

How can a pocket AA be suited???lol

belka2203 · Jul 10, 2018

To me the program Equilab has counted the effectiveness of AA - 81.26% KK - 18.74%. This is the probability of winning AA against KK.

Jack Reacher · Jul 13, 2018

My question is not what is the chance of KK to beat AA but what is the chance that when you hold KK someone else is holding AA.

Nikolay Nakhaev · Jul 13, 2018

Jack Reacher said:
My question is not what is the chance of KK to beat AA but what is the chance that when you hold KK someone else is holding AA.

it's easier then without any calculations to say that the probability then I would say 50% to 50%

8bod8 · Jul 13, 2018

the chance of getting a specific pocket pair is close to 0.45% (I'm travelling, so don't have the table with me, but that number I remember, I think; I'll check next week).
So:
- you getting KK, roughly 0.45%
- on a table of 9, there is 8*0.45=3.6% that someone else gets AA (actually slightly higher, as you already have two cards which KK; not 1 A).
The probability of both happening in the same hand is 0.0045*0.036 = once every 6000 hands.

PuMa8818 · Jul 13, 2018

Nikolay Nakhaev said:
The probability that you or an opponent will get AA at hand is 0.45%.
The probability of obtaining KK is about 0.9%
proceed from this.
or did I misunderstand your question again?
for this there are probability tables and on them you can already think whether there is against your KK from opponent AA .

I wonder ... I did not go into details, but why are the probabilities not the same? and K and A in deck 4, absolute equality in number. So the probability of loss should be the same?

Shrops · Jul 13, 2018

Hi

It sure seems like it happens to me a lot. I get KK and think this is my chance to double up and Bam I run into AA.

Nikolay Nakhaev · Jul 13, 2018

The data given in the tables is only a probability. poker game of dispersion and various unexpected situations at the table. it's not just math but also intuition and luck. one I think is correct. that with this situation you will not encounter often.

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