Could you fold a Straight Flush against a Full House?

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In my case, it was pure arrogance disguised as theory. I had a straight flush on the flop, the board was beautiful, and when my opponent started betting heavily, I knew deep down that I could have the pair that would later become a full house. But my ego said, "I have a monster hand, how can I fold this? If I fold, I'll look weak." The result was that I lost a pot equivalent to three months' salary in a single hand. I learned the hard way that sometimes the best bluff is against yourself, and that folding a beautiful hand when the situation calls for it isn't cowardice, it's discipline.
 
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huh?
Last time I played poker StraightFlush > beats > FullHouse
 
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Folding a straight flush on a paired board? I’m never doing that. By the way, a straight flush beats a full house so I’m kinda confused here.
 
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dariana Orasma said:
I had a straight flush on the flop, the board was beautiful, and when my opponent started betting heavily, I knew deep down that I could have the pair that would later become a full house.
I think there's something missing here. If you had a straight on flop, you can't have a pair, at least in Texas Holdem.
If it was Omaha, remember that just two cards of your holding cards count. Two of your hand and three of the table.
Anyway, if you don't know that much about rules and strategy, I'd say that you shouldn't be betting that much money.
 
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Orvol1 said:
Honestly, I would still fold a Straight Flush against a Full House, especially in higher stakes games or against tough opponents, as even if I win, the pot odds might not be great enough to justify risking a significant chunk of my stack against such a strong hand. I recall one time I was in the CO at a $1/$2 six-max NLHE table and a Tight-Aggressive player limped, then bet on the flop after the board came with the third card to my Straight Flush, I decided to call, only for them to turn over a Full House and I was left wishing I had folded on the flop.
Maybe it's a translation issue?

If you're folding a straight flush EVER, you might want to take a look at this >

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dariana Orasma said:
В моем случае это была чистая самоуверенность, замаскированная под теорию. У меня был стрит-флеш на флопе, борд был великолепен, и когда мой оппонент начал делать крупные ставки, я в глубине души понимал, что у меня может быть пара, которая позже превратится в фулл-хаус. Но мое эго говорило: «У меня потрясающая рука, как я могу сбросить? Если я сброшу, я буду выглядеть слабым». В результате я проиграл банк, эквивалентный трехмесячной зарплате, за одну раздачу. Я на собственном горьком опыте убедился, что иногда лучший блеф — это блеф против самого себя, и что сбрасывать прекрасную руку, когда того требует ситуация, — это не трусость, а дисциплина.
Against a full house, you always take the bank. If you see street flesh and a full house exit is a “cooler”, you should play all the fish.
 
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If there is 3 of a kind on the board , the board your flush might be to volatile
 
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I would never fold straight flush, why would you do that?
 
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I strike flush stronger than fullhouse
 
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Eu jamais desistiria. Mas, se entendi o texto corretamente, como um full house vence um straight flush?
 
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Poker Orifice said:
Talvez seja um problema de tradução?

Se você alguma vez desistir de um straight flush, talvez queira dar uma olhada nisto >

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That's exactly what I thought.
 
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My straight flush has lost to a higher straight flush, but no I would not be folding a straight flush fearing a full house. Even 4 of a kind cannot overcome a straight flush on a flop.
 
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dariana Orasma said:
In my case, it was pure arrogance disguised as theory. I had a straight flush on the flop, the board was beautiful, and when my opponent started betting heavily, I knew deep down that I could have the pair that would later become a full house. But my ego said, "I have a monster hand, how can I fold this? If I fold, I'll look weak." The result was that I lost a pot equivalent to three months' salary in a single hand. I learned the hard way that sometimes the best bluff is against yourself, and that folding a beautiful hand when the situation calls for it isn't cowardice, it's discipline.
I can't even fold a full house against a full house!
 
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Orvol1 said:
While it ultimately depends on your bankroll and table dynamics, mathematically speaking, folding a Straight Flush against a Full House is still the correct decision in most cases, as the odds favor the player with the Full House. I've found myself in this exact situation a few times and it's paid off by avoiding unnecessary losses, but I'm curious, what would you folks do in such a scenario?
I'd suggest that your bankroll will take a hit if you start folding straight flushes to anything, EVER!
I think you might be typing 'straight flush' into A.I. incorrectly and it's reading it as 'flush' or 'straight'.
 
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Sure would like to see the hand played out, seeing as the only hand that beats a straight flush is a higher strait flush.
If the best hand on board can beat your hand, then only maybe you have to consider your opponent.
 
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 nope the simpsons
 
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dariana Orasma said:
In my case, it was pure arrogance disguised as theory. I had a straight flush on the flop, the board was beautiful, and when my opponent started betting heavily, I knew deep down that I could have the pair that would later become a full house. But my ego said, "I have a monster hand, how can I fold this? If I fold, I'll look weak." The result was that I lost a pot equivalent to three months' salary in a single hand. I learned the hard way that sometimes the best bluff is against yourself, and that folding a beautiful hand when the situation calls for it isn't cowardice, it's discipline.

Orvol1 said:
While a Straight Flush is an extremely strong hand, I would probably still consider folding against a Full House in a tight game if my opponents are tight players, and the board has been drying up, especially since a Full House has around a 0.14% chance of flopping.

Orvol1 said:
Honestly, I would still fold a Straight Flush against a Full House, especially in higher stakes games or against tough opponents, as even if I win, the pot odds might not be great enough to justify risking a significant chunk of my stack against such a strong hand. I recall one time I was in the CO at a $1/$2 six-max NLHE table and a Tight-Aggressive player limped, then bet on the flop after the board came with the third card to my Straight Flush, I decided to call, only for them to turn over a Full House and I was left wishing I had folded on the flop.


Where and when do you guys play ? Thanks in advance
 
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This week I hit my 212th straight flush since 2010 while playing online poker. Of those 212 I only folded 1. I lost internet connection.
 
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What game/version are you playing?
 
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wait... a full house cannot beat a straight flush. either you’re playing a different game, or you need to double-check the hand rankings before betting 3 months of salary
 
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straight flush beats full house sadly you did fold it
 
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No, I would never fold a straight flush. By the way a straight flush beats a full house. Certainly scenarios you have to put in your chips and hope it works. Usually one cannot fold hands of this value. You play the game to catch these hands and not to fold them.
 
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So the lessons are make "disciplined" folds and save 3 months salary in one hand, play even higher stakes* and save yet more🤔

*Stay within in your bankroll - obviously!
 
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If you are folding straight flushes, what hands are you not folding? Seriously, that means you literally fold everything. Good luck with that. I’ve never seen anyone fold their way to win. It’s a straight flush, it beats EVERYTHING except a higher straight flush.
EVERYTHING.
 
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