Is it necessary to study range charts?

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I like playing poker, but not that much interested in studying the game (probably the reason why I'm not a good player)


I've tried to study range charts, but whenever I see them I lose interest in poker and It feels like a job.

Is it really necessary to be a sucessful player to study them?

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You have already studied the ranges in every position by having this chart lol. If you mean do you have to strictly follow the ranges in the game to be successful, not necessarily. There be other considerations.
 
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I think it's better to study the concepts that lead to how the range charts are constructed. This will benefit you in the long run and will allow you to see if a range chart makes sense to begin with. Usual the opening range charts from each position are based on:

- Your raise size (a larger size means you can open less hands profitably)
- How many people are left (more people means more chance to run into a bigger hand)
- The initial pot (cash game ranges are tighter because you fight for 1.5bb pot instead of 2.5bb in tournaments)

There are more complex reasons that you will meet later in your journey, but I think it's more interesting to look at it from this perspective instead of just blindly learning a chart by heart and having no way of adjusting properly :)
 
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I wish I had all this data in my mind. I can only remember the UTG range and still fail sometimes.
 
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KUN_AGUERO_KROOS said:
I've tried to study range charts, but whenever I see them I lose interest in poker and It feels like a job.
Because it's a job. Compared to the players who regularly play poker to make money, you simply don't stand a chance in the long run if you don't work on the concepts. You don't have to memorize charts for that, but you do have to understand the game from the charts, for example, if you want to reach a certain level. Playing poker successfully in 2023 requires some pretty hard work. The boom years are long gone, when every gambler and sports betting freak threw the money into the poker industry as well. However, those who just want to play for fun will get their worth even without charts and analytics. In the long run, however, they will not win money in normal tournaments or cash games.
 
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As you can imagine, if you want to improve, you have to study.

I can recommend the 30 days poker course from cardschat.

And btw:
Those ranges seem pretty tight.

And last but not least;
In micros, you cannot expect people to play according to ranges. Just today I've seen a player opening 97o from UTG. 😅
 
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it's not enough to know the range to be a good player because you'll learn it, but when the streets start you'll get lost and start playing differently
 
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Andyreas said:
As you can imagine, if you want to improve, you have to study.

I can recommend the 30 days poker course from cardschat.

And btw:
Those ranges seem pretty tight.

And last but not least;
In micros, you cannot expect people to play according to ranges. Just today I've seen a player opening 97o from UTG. 😅
Totally agree about how people play in micros. Mad. 😂👍
 
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Not at all ..I think experience is the best tool
 
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Only on really high stakes with great opposition do you need such deep knowledge.
For regular run of the mill tournaments and cash games it's not really that important.
 
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KUN_AGUERO_KROOS said:
I like playing poker, but not that much interested in studying the game (probably the reason why I'm not a good player)


I've tried to study range charts, but whenever I see them I lose interest in poker and It feels like a job.

Is it really necessary to be a sucessful player to study them?

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This stuff is actually super simple.

When I began playing online poker I played around a lot with Pokerstove. (you can manually adjust the ranges).
I found it to be essential when calculating spots for calling allins, 3-bet stealing allin, etc. etc.
 
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i liked the old school style ... .'if you cant play good play tight' . now the solvers recommend reraising 76s in the big blind some portion of the time ( vs a button min raise open ) ,then c betting double broadway flops ! sounds like a fine way to lose lots of chips to me .
 
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