Why do I find KQs better than AA when there are alot calling

louuu19 · Nov 7, 2024

MK_ · Nov 7, 2024

I dunno, have you ran the numbers on that or just a feeling.....

iwont20 · Nov 7, 2024

Because KQs has better playability, a lot of options to become nuts. AA only have two good outs to become nuts, and sometimes needs both of them on certain boards.

BUT actually I clicked on this thread in hopes to read a good explanation from the topic starter... 🥲😂

accuratefern · Nov 7, 2024

louuu19 said:
Why do I find KQs better than AA when there are alot calling

AA should be played hard and fast. With 3 players seeing the flop you will - unless the board is very wet - probably be favourite. Bet the full pot or 2/3 of the pot.
On the turn it should be Heads-Up. Bet hard again.
So what if AA loses to a set or better? Nevermind. Just accept that AA only wins 80% of the times. It’s the long run that matters. Nothing else.

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DanS87 · Nov 7, 2024

Ultimately I’ll play both, but as a preference I’d prefer the AA. You have a playable hand from the off and providing theres varied low cards turned over in the community cards, you’re in a strong position.

That said, I’d definitely be playing both those past the flop should I have them dealt too me.

BelFish · Nov 7, 2024

It also greatly depends on what cards the callers have... Sometimes completely different blockers... It may be that KQs have a lot of all sorts of backdoors and all outs are “live”, and all outs for aces are missing due to the fact that they are in the hands other players.

For example, in this screenshot 98s is much better than KQs. But here aces are still the best hand in terms of equity! You can “play around” with a poker calculator and look for all sorts of different situations.

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P.S. And it seems that the RNG likes to give more often the necessary outs to those who call with KQ )))
Very often, according to observations, this hand beats stronger hands ))

La reytor · Nov 7, 2024

I think that QK should make the worst hand, although it is a strong hand that does not guarantee that you will win with "QK" the hand that is likely to win an all in between 5 players is usually 85, 9/10, 6.7 those are The hands that are most likely to win are between 23% and 19%, which is a very large probability. I would not pay with QK, greetings.

flabilim · Nov 7, 2024

AA in my opinion will always be the best hand, because KQ has to win at least 2 cards, against AA.

oriole · Nov 7, 2024

Because you don't know how to play AA in multiway pots?

Luvepoker · Nov 7, 2024

I understand what you are saying. Its most likly about post flop feeling your having. While Pocket aces are the better hand when we get our aces cracked post flop we only have 2 cards to win the hand. When we are against a hand like aces, if we flop a pair with KQ we actually have a better chance of winning the hand than if out aces were cracked. We have 5 out or 20% chance to hit that 2nd pair where when our aces at cracked we have 2 outs and about 8% to win the hand.

Another thing to remember, we get aces and most time feel we are going to win big time. We remember those looses longer. With KQ we don't expect to win as often. This is probably another reason you like KQ better. They don't disappoint us often.

63burner · Nov 7, 2024

When there is a lot of people calling, they might be paired, hopefully with low pairs. The suited part of your question makes it more intriguing than AA. You have more combinations available than AA. Many times a shove of AA turns into a miss on the flop, etc. and your AA is left dangling, a loong way from connecting to anything.

eetenor · Nov 7, 2024

louuu19 said:
Why do I find KQs better than AA when there are alot calling

The reason is you can improve KQS in more ways than you can improve AA. You can also fold KQS easily on most flops that you miss but with a pair of AA only flops that are monotone and not your suits are truly missed flops as we always have 1 pair with no overcards.

Igor G · Nov 7, 2024

louuu19 said:
Why do I find KQs better than AA when there are alot calling

Do you have any reason to think so, or is your assumption based only on your intuitive feelings?
A simple mathematical calculation tells us that the chances with AA are still better

nelomec · Nov 7, 2024

louuu19 said:
Why do I find KQs better than AA when there are alot calling

I think KQs is not better than AA, when there are a lot of people calling, it may even be with 2 or 4 players in the hand, but even so the probability of winning against AA is lower.

R.Melnyk77 · Nov 8, 2024

louuu19 said:
Why do I find KQs better than AA when there are alot calling

You seem to have been playing for years and your observation seems strange to me. I would certainly rather play with AA than KQ.

amonlima · Nov 10, 2024

Whenever we play with more than one opponent, the equity of our hands decreases, that is, in this situation it is completely normal to lose AA, for example, than just by playing a spot hu.

besttest11 · Feb 9, 2025

Man, AA is still the best, but you should pressure your opponent by raising in the blinds.

pentazepam · Feb 9, 2025

amonlima said:
Whenever we play with more than one opponent, the equity of our hands decreases, that is, in this situation it is completely normal to lose AA, for example, than just by playing a spot hu.

AA all-in preflop - How many callers do you want? - Page 2 - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum - Live Poker Low-stakes NL

AA is 31% vs 9 random hands. 31% of 1K is \0. 80% of 200 is \0. You increase your EV by 93.75% by having everybody call.

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christovam · Feb 9, 2025

It really is difficult to win with AA in multiplayer.

kecoakbogor · Feb 9, 2025

AA is the best freeflop as long as you can manage it, read the opponent strategy and smash them

there are many player think that AA will win 100%

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