Why you bet?!

telespf · Oct 12, 2021

Do you know why you bet or re-raise a bet!?!

Would you say about your strategy for win more money when you have the best hand?!

Normally you wait your opponent have action for you win more chips or you prefer win the pot soon?! And about the risck of you wait the hand of your opponent to be better and really it’s have happened?!

You could win the hand and in the finish you lost more chips?!

Rost · Oct 12, 2021

Situations are different, so there is no single and always right solution. There are many factors to consider. In my opinion, it is best to be patient and wait for a good opportunity.

Lochika · Oct 12, 2021

There is no right answer, it all depand on your rande and your opponent range.
I will say that the most value in poker is from value bets, less from bluffs.

tenk27 · Oct 14, 2021

We all bet for fun and profit, I hope no one bets me to lose

mushthebush · Oct 15, 2021

There are various reasons for betting. 2/3 of the time I don’t hit the flop or the board in any way. Would you fold all the hands that don’t hit and lose the 3BB or even more if it’s a 3-bet involved, 2/3 of the times you invested them? And when you hit the board, would you be happy to win only 3BB from your opponent? What if someone else has a better hand and they hit the board, don’t you want to scare them off in order to fold their winning hand in your favour?

These are some of the questions that I asked myself when I noticed I wasn’t profitable.

There are no strict rules as to how and when to do it, but the why is strict if you want to pay the rent or mortgage, you need those BB to go into your account most of the time.

Hermus · Oct 16, 2021

We bet for value if we're likely to have the best hand and get called by worse. We bet as a bluff if we have the worst hand and expect better hands to fold. We bet for protection when we have a marginal made hand that is susceptible to being downgraded on later streets.

CerealKiller78 · Oct 17, 2021

We dont want to value bet when you make fold worse hands and call better hands. Sometimes you want to keep worse hands in villains range.

La reytor · Oct 17, 2021

It is difficult to withdraw from a large pot with a KA hand it has happened to me that nothing has come out and on the table is like this 56783 and I lost a lot, you start to question yourself my rival has QA which is always the classic KAvsQA and what I had was mirival A4 painful very painful.

zwbb · Oct 17, 2021

It should be emphasized that there is no perfect strategy for playing poker, but there are strategies that bring players stable dividends. Learning these strategies will be the first step to success for beginners, but experienced players can gain new and useful knowledge.

Igor Popadyk · Oct 17, 2021

there are many factors, including your attitude to the game, there are a number of dependencies on the bet - your opponent, his stack, board structure, and a number of others!

perrywh · Oct 17, 2021

I want what’s in the middle! Slow play is a bad play!

Mamkin_Pokerist · Oct 17, 2021

It all depends on the situation. But I often mask the strength of my hand

redmast · Oct 17, 2021

For a thorough explanation of my actions, I will have to write a lot. Most of the time, I act intuitively based on my experience of previous games.

ROYALROAD · Oct 17, 2021

Whether to bet or not-
poker makes the right decision.

zerosalex · Oct 17, 2021

I bet to make pots bigger.

frnandoh · Oct 17, 2021

zwbb said:
It should be emphasized that there is no perfect strategy for playing poker, but there are strategies that bring players stable dividends. Learning these strategies will be the first step to success for beginners, but experienced players can gain new and useful knowledge.

Yes, there are. But it is dificult to find the best action for every single action in a game.

telespf · Oct 18, 2021

But if we not bet before our hand not will turn big to a good hand of value.

But, if we bet hight, our opponent will fold a hand. If we wait.

Bet value after river level up of the pot is not good too.

Is good wait action of opponent, if you have a good hand of value??

Lochika said:
There is no right answer, it all depand on your rande and your opponent range.
I will say that the most value in poker is from value bets, less from bluffs.

telespf · Oct 18, 2021

You can keep your strategy for long time?!

Independent of you tournament, you keep your strategy and can to keep lucrative for long time?!

In some tournaments, some times I see me to be envolv for my opponents and losing my strategy

zwbb said:
It should be emphasized that there is no perfect strategy for playing poker, but there are strategies that bring players stable dividends. Learning these strategies will be the first step to success for beginners, but experienced players can gain new and useful knowledge.

Phoenix Wright · Oct 18, 2021

Hermus said:
We bet for value if we're likely to have the best hand and get called by worse. We bet as a bluff if we have the worst hand and expect better hands to fold. We bet for protection when we have a marginal made hand that is susceptible to being downgraded on later streets.

My favorite response in this thread, so far

Yes, this is a good foundation for all logical bets. There are a few other advanced reasons one may bet as well, but these other reasons tend to be meta-game factors which wouldn't traditionally make sense for a specific hand in a vacuum.

Some examples of those betting reasons might be:

- altering your table image

- downbetting (betting for pot control) which is betting smaller with the hopes of getting called when you feel like a check by you would be raised bigger (e.g. you're opponent bets full pot every time you check and you don't want the pot that big, so you downbet one third pot yourself and they simply call; whereas if you checked they'd likely bet out full pot themselves - downbetting is obviously less successful against experienced opponents knowing what you are up to

)

- we might also bet because our opponent's range is capped and our perceived range is stronger. This might sort of be "bluffing", but I consider it slightly different because this type of betting reason would also occur whenever we have a better hand too. Basically, our range is stronger than the opponent range and maybe even more effective when the opponent knows this fact too! (although it still might work to some success if the opponent isn't thinking in terms of ranges, but it is probably better against someone who "knows" they should fold to your bet)

KozakAlex · Oct 18, 2021

I get bored sometimes. I want and make a bet. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. I want to make my opponent nervous and make mistakes. Let him not understand what I'm doing. And why I'm giving away the chips. Maybe he doesn't understand what he's doing. Sometimes it helps against tired opponents. Or there is a fiasco.

Lochika · Oct 18, 2021

telespf said:
But if we not bet before our hand not will turn big to a good hand of value.

But, if we bet hight, our opponent will fold a hand. If we wait.

Bet value after river level up of the pot is not good too.

Is good wait action of opponent, if you have a good hand of value??

I am not sure I understand what you are saying...

perrypip · Oct 18, 2021

Three reasons for betting.

1) For value. To get villain to call your bet with a weaker hand.

2) As a bluff. To get villain to fold a stronger hand than mine.

3) To deny equity. To make villain pay to much to get a chance to draw out on me.

mateuszjason · Oct 18, 2021

Im betting and 3 or 4 betting to make a pression to rival, to play with one player only, to my oponnets think that i had a better hand than him, and then bluff with position, or 3 barrel bluff without position

caracaski220 · Oct 18, 2021

caracaski220

First to take control of the hand , either to realize value or to get others off the hand.

PsychoVas · Oct 18, 2021

The only rock-solid truth in poker is: "It depends".
Sometimes you need to protect a hand, sometimes you need to trap, every situation is different. And the decisions we make are subject to the next board card.
The only simple answer is for pre-flop opening bets. You raise to get more money in the pot and fewer players in the hand.

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