Would you ever turn down correct odds preflop?

Stu_Ungar · Jan 20, 2009

Are there any circumstances where you would turn down corect odds?

i.e preflop you face 3 all ins, your hand (via pokerstove) is now getting correct odds.. do you call??

vanquish · Jan 20, 2009

early in a tournament: it depends
in ring games: all-in!

kevkojak · Jan 21, 2009

True. Tourneys are all about survival. Early on when your likely to be up against mediocre hands and bad players trying for an early double up, its tempting. But still, 3 all-in's mean 3 chances to get sucked out on!
Ring games, its not even a question! Push them in and get ready for a quick re-buy or a hail of abuse when the best hand actually holds up! (I've read about this, but never seen it happen...) Lol.

RogueRivered · Jan 21, 2009

Definitely. SNGs with 3 paid places is the prime example. Say you are the short stack and are already guaranteed at least 3rd place. Now the two big stacks are all-in against each other. Should you join the fray, or just wait for one to knock out the other and move up to at least 2nd by folding? I think you wait. Or maybe you are in 4th place and can move into the money by watching them knock each other out. In an MTT, unless it's the final table, I say no, you take the odds and try to make the final table rather than just limping into the money.

left52side · Jan 21, 2009

Yes its depends on what level in a tourney it is.
i have folded my odds several times even when i was getting in for the right price,due to the fact i was on the bubble,or in a late stage of the tourney were i have a good chance to make itm.

KardKlub · Jan 21, 2009

The only time in my opinion is if you have a massive stack over the rest of the all ins or your short stacked and instead of doubling up you can tripple up or x4.

It's too much of a gamble with 3+ in the pot plus you so i would fold, and as left side says if your on the bubble why risk it.

HalifaxLeafs · Jan 21, 2009

i think it definately depends of what stage the tourney is in.because if its early enough in the tourney im all about survival..however in he later stages my main goal in to take 1st, so i might disregard pot odds & fold ..
Waiting for my aces in the hole ..i think it really depends on gut feeling..does it feel like the right move? Because pot odds doesnt always dictate the right call /fold.. i have called massive reraises before just on gut feeling & been successfull..I think it depends on the individual & there poker prowesess/ability to read villans/situations

Good luck @ the tables.

FereZ · Jan 21, 2009

HalifaxLeafs said:
i think it definately depends of what stage the tourney is in.because if its early enough in the tourney im all about survival..however in he later stages my main goal in to take 1st, so i might disregard pot odds & fold ..
Waiting for my aces in the hole ..i think it really depends on gut feeling..does it feel like the right move? Because pot odds doesnt always dictate the right call /fold.. i have called massive reraises before just on gut feeling & been successfull..I think it depends on the individual & there poker prowesess/ability to read villans/situations

Good luck @ the tables.

Yeah, just like this post, it depends of stage of the tournament.

Goodluck!!

Steveg1976 · Jan 21, 2009

vanquish said:
early in a tournament: it depends
in ring games: all-in!

^^this

Dwilius · Jan 21, 2009

Yes, sometimes if I'm pretty sure I'll be 30/70 or 40/60 at best and I'm borderline priced in as a shortstack, I'd rather keep those chips so I have some fold equity when I shove myself.

dvd-GT · Jan 22, 2009

If by folding i guarantee a prize then i fold, i folded AA pre-flop when 4 players remained and top 3 got entry to a guaranteed prize tourny, the small stack was sitting out or disconnected.

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