Using the Rabbit Cam

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Do you use the rabbit cam ("rabbit hunt" feature) to reveal undealt cards?

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I didn't as I don't chase cards and I don't care about run outs once my decisions are over but..
it's dawned on me they can be a useful source of information and reveal if a villain was likely bluffing.

Example: I have AQo on KsQh7dKh, I bet twice in position, villain check raises the turn and I fold.
Rabbit cam shows another K on the river. We can now suspect and note villain may be floating to check-raise backdoor flush draws or scare cards.

All information in poker is power!

Are you a serial rabbit hunter? Are there any other uses for them (other than depressing your results orientated self)?
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I never thought of it this way but interesting thought! 👍🏻

I mainly play on sites that don't offer this feature, so I rarely use it.
 
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Andyreas said:
I never thought of it this way but interesting thought! 👍🏻

I mainly play on sites that don't offer this feature, so I rarely use it.
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I had it turned off on Party, joined 888 recently and started using it there and had the light bulb moment - I see Stars don't have it.
 
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I think its a waste of time, you dont know that that is the card you would have received and it does you no good to be results oriented. You want to make the correct play.
 
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Do you use the rabbit cam ("rabbit hunt" feature) to reveal undealt cards?

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I didn't as I don't chase cards and I don't care about run outs once my decisions are over but..
it's dawned on me they can be a useful source of information and reveal if a villain was likely bluffing.

Example: I have AQo on KsQh7dKh, I bet twice in position, villain check raises the turn and I fold.
Rabbit cam shows another K on the river. We can now suspect and note villain may be floating to check-raise backdoor flush draws or scare cards.

All information in poker is power!

Are you a serial rabbit hunter? Are there any other uses for them (other than depressing your results orientated self)?
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it's not a good way to think, because if you've folded, you better concentrate on the next play - it's like we don't have the opportunity to go back in time and change something
 
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I never use this feature. It's an extra click that I'm too lazy to do)
I usually play 4-6 tables and I'm not very interested in seeing what could happen after my fold :)
 
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I think everyone looks at it sometimes as a beginner, but you shouldn't let it get to the point where it becomes a habit for every hand, because it just takes the focus off the next hand.
Each hand lasts as long as it lasts, then a new chapter begins. This feature weakens this ability.
 
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dzsire said:
I think everyone looks at it sometimes as a beginner, but you shouldn't let it get to the point where it becomes a habit for every hand, because it just takes the focus off the next hand.
Each hand lasts as long as it lasts, then a new chapter begins. This feature weakens this ability.
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Did you take my point on using it for information?

Regard it as a "Show some of the dead cards" button.

This can be very useful in reducing villain's range in game for spots where you've had to make a close fold and it improves accuracy of equity calculations if you study the spot post game.
 
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Another example is seeing if villain looks at the rabbit cam, is he checking if his draw would have come in? Does increase the likelihood so we can take note
 
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Example, this is a "don't care" freeroll..

Multiway limped pot, my BB.

I overbet lead flop, shove turn, villain folds and hits rabbit cam, we can suspect he will call draws w. poor price on the flop?

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one of my pet peeves about partypoker is that they "charge" for rabbit hunting like fake money, but still after a while you're unable to use it unless you have enough diamonds
 
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Urameshi said:
one of my pet peeves about Partypoker is that they "charge" for rabbit hunting like fake money, but still after a while you're unable to use it unless you have enough diamonds
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It slows the game down? So they charge for it? I have 10s of thousands of diamonds I think having never used many.
 
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Urameshi said:
one of my pet peeves about Partypoker is that they "charge" for rabbit hunting like fake money, but still after a while you're unable to use it unless you have enough diamonds
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lol What a scam! Good thing you said that, now I can be sure to never download this garbage.
 
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DarkSage said:
lol What a scam! Good thing you said that, now I can be sure to never download this garbage.
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There's no 'cost' in real terms. They charge a virtual currency ('diamonds'), which they award you as you play. I'm not sure if emoticons and throwables have to be paid for with diamonds too (I have emoticons turned off - for good reason - and I don't tend to spam throwables).

I do see some people are serial rabbit cammers. I think it really says a lot about their game- they are very results oriented and fixated on what cards come out, so poker is a card matching bingo type game to them.
 
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This feature has some downsides and some upsides.
The downside is that if you fold and then discover you would have made the winning hand on the river, you tend to tilt. So if you have trouble dealing with tilt, stay away from the rabbits.
On the other hand, as mentioned in the initial message, you can gain important information about the possible cards in the villain's hand. You can also learn about the software's card distribution method.
Each player should weigh the cost-benefit of this feature for themselves before deciding whether or not to use it.
 
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I do use it sometimes when I'm in doubt with my decision and it shows me that sometimes i fold to easily.
 
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Complete waste of time if the room's software is using a continuous shuffle, because the cards you see on the rabbit hunt won't be the same cards that would have appeared on the board anyway.
 
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Propane Goat said:
Complete waste of time if the room's software is using a continuous shuffle, because the cards you see on the rabbit hunt won't be the same cards that would have appeared on the board anyway.
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But the point is cards shown are dead (i.e. can't be in the villain's hand), this allows us to narrow his range when taking notes, particularly if a key card comes up as in my example in OP.
 
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monkeytilter said:
I do see some people are serial rabbit cammers. I think it really says a lot about their game- they are very results oriented and fixated on what cards come out, so poker is a card matching bingo type game to them.
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I think this is an over optimistic generalization.

I follow two players who stream on Twitch. Both are great mid-stakes MTT players. One of them uses the rabbit almost all the time but not for any of the reasons you've listed. They might actually be the #1 online mid-stakes MTT player today (if not, they're definitely Top10)
 
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Poker Orifice said:
I think this is an over optimistic generalization.

I follow two players who stream on Twitch. Both are great mid-stakes MTT players. One of them uses the rabbit almost all the time but not for any of the reasons you've listed. They might actually be the #1 online mid-stakes MTT player today (if not, they're definitely Top10)
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So what purpose do they use the rabbit cam for? Anything we can learn from?
 
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