Bovada or America's Cardroom

Aleksei · Jul 9, 2013

A2345Razz said:
Why all the cap games on ACR??? Are we playing NL or spread limit? It kinda voids a lot of advantage skilled players have and makes the games less interesting/more crapshooty.

So, uh... don't play them. There's plenty of regular 6max tables floating around the site; the jackpot ones get a shit ton of fishy action at all levels (up to like 200NL).

RickH1983 · Jul 9, 2013

can anyone recommend a good hud that works for amc?

HomeBrewer · Jul 9, 2013

RickH1983 said:
can anyone recommend a good hud that works for amc?

Breaking bad is a great amc show. :icon_scra

IClickButtons · Jul 10, 2013

RickH1983 said:
Do any of the WPN sites have Mac software?

I don't believe any of the skins support Mac.

WPN is supposed to release new software soon*.

* They've been saying that for months. Your guess is as good as mine when it will actually happen.

RickH1983 · Jul 10, 2013

Sorry I meant ACR

IClickButtons · Jul 11, 2013

RickH1983 said:
Sorry I meant ACR

HEM2 and PT4 currently work for ACR / WPN network.

Reptar7 · Jul 12, 2013

Aleksei · Jul 12, 2013

Also maligning cap games is kind of unfair -- they do have their advantages (mainly, they let you play over your BR since they're basically NLHE short games, and also people are loads more spazzy in them so you can play really merged and extract value from a wider range, more easily).

jsh169 · Jul 12, 2013

It probably depends on the stakes, the higher the stakes the more I would advise Americas Cardroom, because you will get a considerable amount of rakeback. The lower and I would advise Bovada because in terms of softness, it is the place to play. Also tournaments I would say Bovada as well, because they have more mtts and available and larger prize pools.

coelho2013 · Jul 12, 2013

had no knowledge of these sites, thanks for posting this information.

Aleksei · Jul 12, 2013

jsh169 said:
It probably depends on the stakes, the higher the stakes the more I would advise Americas Cardroom, because you will get a considerable amount of rakeback. The lower and I would advise Bovada because in terms of softness, it is the place to play. Also tournaments I would say Bovada as well, because they have more mtts and available and larger prize pools.

1) Rakeback is good at any level.
2) Games at the jackpot tables in ACR/BCP are lol-soft -- not Bovada-soft, but WAAAAAY softer than you'd expect them to be relative to stake level. It also helps that your villains actually have usernames and PT/HEM can track them -- so even though they will be making a less huge number of mistakes you'll more readily see what they are/who's making them.
3) Every tournament in ACR gets overlay (or comes very close) because there are so damn few people on site.

jcdagenius · Jul 12, 2013

bovada has mac client....and it is pretty good site.....id grind it if I were you.....maybe cuz I am grinding it...lol

RickH1983 · Jul 13, 2013

I have never received rake back before. Is there anything special you have to do to get it? I remember years back you had to sign up for special sites and play so many hands to get money back at the end of every month.

Aleksei · Jul 13, 2013

RickH1983 said:
I have never received rake back before. Is there anything special you have to do to get it?

It depends on the site, but usually either you get it automaically or you have to have a certain amount of volume to get it (the latter tends to be true of sites that offer VIP cashback deals rather than rakeback; such as Carbon and Stars).

So far as I can tell affiliate rakeback deals are a gyp. I haven't seen any that actually offer more rakeback than the site offers itself.

Aleksei · Jul 13, 2013

Just made my decision today: ACR > Bovada because I can't play without a HUD; even in superfishy tables.

4lph4r10u5 · Jul 13, 2013

Holdem Indicator works on both Bovada and BCP/ACR.

dj11 · Jul 13, 2013

Any day now WPN will be changing its software. It is highly likely that no tracker will work for several days at least.

The debit card is great, but costly. o for small depositors, or withdrawals, it might not be the best option.

Reptar7 · Jul 13, 2013

A2345Razz said:
Why all the cap games on ACR??? Are we playing NL or spread limit? It kinda voids a lot of advantage skilled players have and makes the games less interesting/more crapshooty.

Am I wrong here?

Which HUDs work on ACR??

Sorry, I play 4 tables during cash if possible and use of a HUD is helpful and definitely cheating or whatever a lot of folks think it is.

I completely agree that all the shorthanded and cap games suck and give make the games really bad. I try to just play nitty, shove/fold style at those tables.

Aleksei · Jul 13, 2013

That's dumb. I mean, it's not a tournament; there's no real reason to keep your M in mind sans balance. Just try and get a read for ranges and play a merged/smallball-y style.

RickH1983 · Jul 14, 2013

Holdem Indicator does work but it is not as intricate as some of the other huds.

lcid86 · Jul 23, 2013

I see the posts about the debit card option. Anyone else have a problem with their requirement for a SSN and driver's license?

ChronicFish · Jul 23, 2013

Bovada is my number one...
im just now getting hip to ACR/BCP

still debating on whether i like it or not yet.

edge28 · Jul 28, 2013

So the only way to get a HUD at Bovada tables is through Holdem Indicator? or are there better options?

Aleksei · Jul 28, 2013

edge28 said:
So the only way to get a HUD at Bovada tables is through Holdem Indicator?

Pretty much.

RickH1983 · Jul 28, 2013

edge28 said:
So the only way to get a HUD at Bovada tables is through Holdem Indicator? or are there better options?

The only problem with holdem indicator is that it only uses the players stats while they are at that table. Once they leave all the info is gone since it is anonymous... I guess it is better that nothing.

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