PS is rigged.

Barbeit0 · Jun 22, 2023

I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

Andyreas · Jun 22, 2023

Now the rigging theories even collide!

You are saying the big stacks loose in a tournament, others say they win with any two cards because the poker rooms want to end the tournament quickly to win more rake.

Who's right now?

None of you is. 🙊

pescaofish · Jun 22, 2023

Its PKR all fixed and worse get even worser

Barbeit0 · Jun 22, 2023

Andyreas said:
Now the rigging theories even collide!

You are saying the big stacks loose in a tournament, others say they win with any two cards because the poker rooms want to end the tournament quickly to win more rake.

Who's right now?

None of you is. 🙊

They found a way to cheat, maybe it doesn't happen to you because you are a regular customer, but it happens to me every day. I lose tournaments magically.

23maxim88 · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

When given a big stack, it's important to be cautious and not let overconfidence hinder your game.

Andyreas · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
They found a way to cheat, maybe it doesn't happen to you because you are a regular customer, but it happens to me every day. I lose tournaments magically.

Sorry to hear buddy.

You can always share some of your hands for analysis, if you want:

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Sunz of Beaches · Jun 22, 2023

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Andyreas said:
Now the rigging theories even collide!

You are saying the big stacks loose in a tournament, others say they win with any two cards because the poker rooms want to end the tournament quickly to win more rake.

Who's right now?

None of you is. 🙊

Yeah these riggies come up with the most cruel theories its crazy. For some its the big stack for others its when u have the big stack😂all based on observations of tiny samplesizes.

Out of fun i made a little riggie experient on 888. Saturday 2 weeks ago i deposited the minimum right before the weekly 300 ( li did not need miney on the site) to see if there is a deposit upswing. And waddayaknow? I won the weekly 300, absolutely sunrunning and also made 5th place in another freeroll with 2800 players at the same time 😂 imagine that would have happened to op (will not).

Ps: just put these people in ignore. I first thought u are the op because i put low quality spammers and riggies instantly on ignore by now 😂 and i no more saw who the real op is.

Goggelheimer · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

Well bully style is not the recommendation, I would give. You can splash your big stack chips very fast. Cautious play with strategy is the way imo. Overly aggressive play is not advised. Change gears as you can do with your cards, helps sometimes more.

Barbeit0 · Jun 22, 2023

23maxim88 said:
When given a big stack, it's important to be cautious and not let overconfidence hinder your game.

You are right. But i promise you, im not crazy, no matter if i play hands like j-j because the guy on my left have QQ or KK in the same time. No matters if i go with A-A because some guy gets 4 5 6 7 in the community cards. I promise you this happen all, all the time.

Barbeit0 · Jun 22, 2023

Goggelheimer said:
Well bully style is not the recommendation, I would give. You can splash your big stack chips very fast. Cautious play with strategy is the way imo. Overly aggressive play is not advised. Change gears as you can do with your cards, helps sometimes more.

That is right, but i cant fold Q-Q, or A-K suit. And when i go with that hands, the fkn game beat me hard every day every time. Things that would happen ones on a while

jonaselloco · Jun 22, 2023

In PS the game is the same as in any casino poker room.
Just watch some youtube videos and you'll realize that badbeats work the same way.
You have to try to understand that poker is a game in which you win and lose.
Those of us who try to build a bankroll are just trying to reduce that variance.
Sometimes it is very difficult, but hey sometimes it is positive to fold if you are not sure of the situation.
The opponent bluffed and shows you the cards, don't worry, it's already information you have about him, sooner or later he will repeat the situation and you will be the winner.
Greetings

finaltable1 · Jun 22, 2023

yeah, comparing to other sites PS has much higher bad beat ratio... 1-2 outers hit so often.... any ace rag is a good hand at PS, cause ace comes on board so freaking often,
2-3 players holding ace and remaining 1-2 aces are being dealt on flop-turn or river... i don't see such at other poker sites that often, while at PS... all you have to do to win something is to not throw away your A6os preflop... in UTG... with 3bet behind you... just don't fold it.

Andyreas · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
i cant fold Q-Q, or A-K suit.

Well that you have it, buddy.

As lovely as AKs is, when the board is mono-colour, paired or connected cards and you face a lot of aggression, folding it the only right thing to do.

Also preflop, you don't always need to get in a 3-bet or 4-bet pot, especially against nits. If your stack is very confident, let the small stacks beat each other.

EvertonGirl · Jun 22, 2023

It's variance and sometimes it feels personal, just don't let the variance win, sort out tilt and the results will come

Barbeit0 · Jun 22, 2023

Suns of Beaches said:
Yeah these riggies come up with the most cruel theories its crazy. For some its the big stack for others its when u have the big stack😂all based on observations of tiny samplesizes.

Out of fun i made a little riggie experient on 888. Saturday 2 weeks ago i deposited the minimum right before the weekly 300 ( li did not need miney on the site) to see if there is a deposit upswing. And waddayaknow? I won the weekly 300, absolutely sunrunning and also made 5th place in another freeroll with 2800 players at the same time 😂 imagine that would have happened to op (will not).

Ps: just put these people in ignore. I first thought u are the op because i put low quality spammers and riggies instantly on ignore by now 😂 and i no more saw who the real op is.

I also won a tournament at 888poker the first day I played, and that same day I came to this forum to comment that it seemed very likely that I played against many bots. I don't think winning is a reason to stay quiet and suck feet.

Barbeit0 · Jun 22, 2023

EvertonGirl said:
It's variance and sometimes it feels personal, just don't let the variance win, sort out tilt and the wins will come

Variance is something, but i promise you, pokerstars dont wanna people like me that cant put so much usd in his account. Im a good player but i cant win with this magical flops and rivers.

finaltable1 · Jun 22, 2023

I'm not going to prove anything, cause obviously it can not be proven.. RNG and such bla bla bla... Consider it my theory or observations..
BUT
Let's watch and compare some of the poker streamers, like Lex Veldhuis or Spraggy for PS and ANY other streamer for ANY other poker platform.
You can clearly see the difference, how calm non PS streamers are with high pocket pairs, like AA... and HOW nervous PS poker Pros with such hands "Please HOLD... PLEASE"

yes ofc u can track stats for any type of hand played with HUD or even ask support to give you the stats, just to be exact... but most of the players who play several poker platforms at the same time can easily track such things using their withdrawals history.

You play same ranges, same style BUT at different poker sites, and you're getting very different picture. Some will say that fields are different, but they're not, specially at low-mid levels.

JahreadJake · Jun 22, 2023

Watching streamers associated with pokerstars, I get the impression that they get better hands more often and are much more likely to bust out on the turn/river. But that's just my guess after dozens of hours of watching streams by Lex, Arie, Spaggy etc.

acidburnfx · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

Seems like a simple decision. If you don't want discuss and says that the company is a mafia, then only you should avoid playing on the platform.

Goggelheimer · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
That is right, but i cant fold Q-Q, or A-K suit. And when i go with that hands, the fkn game beat me hard every day every time. Things that would happen ones on a while

I hope you use a tracker like H2N(its free) then you can prove your rigged theory if you have a large hand database. 500k+ hands is large but 1million is better.
AK and QQ are not the big winners. and are sometimes a better call and if they improve not greatly on flop and turn they are a big fold to any bigger aggression.

ramorleans · Jun 22, 2023

Not everyday is a Holiday my brother.

Poker Orifice · Jun 22, 2023

Barbeit0 said:
I dont want to discuss, because i dont have doubt, this is a mafia guys. Im not paranoic, I am an observer. Pokerstars needs to put you in the ground if you are playing good, right? You cant take money for free, or just because you are a good player with some luck. When you win a big stack in any tournamente, i recommended to you to play very very safe.

Thanks for the information.

I'm just a bit curious... When you signed up to Pokerstars, did they give you an offer you couldn't refuse?

GNuTTz · Jun 22, 2023

I agree that PS is rigged- or somehow/way the cards are manipulated via the algorithm- to favour a select few. Technology is far too advanced these days. How can this theory/belief truly be disproven? It's like when the police make a critical/catastrophic error- internal affairs handles it... Hmm. It's still the same police dept. Doesn't really sound like a fair process- it's biased. Same thing with poker sites. I believe that- Until there is a third-party that is completely unassociated with the poker sites- you will continue to see ‘rigged’ behaviour. 🙈

Poker Orifice · Jun 22, 2023

GNuTTz said:
I agree that PS is rigged- or somehow/way the cards are manipulated via the algorithm- to favour a select few. Technology is far too advanced these days. How can this theory/belief truly be disproven? It's like when the police make a critical/catastrophic error- internal affairs handles it... Hmm. It's still the same police dept. Doesn't really sound like a fair process- it's biased. Same thing with poker sites. I believe that- Until there is a third-party that is completely unassociated with the poker sites- you will continue to see ‘rigged’ behaviour. 🙈

Do you find it odd that the 'chosen' few are the players who put in countless hours studying the game, along with huge volume?

ElScorcho008 · Jun 22, 2023

I understand getting upset when you get a bad beat, but these sites are making money no matter if you win or lose. They are making a lot of money. They don't need to rig the game. If they did and got caught, they would lose everything

PS is rigged.

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