Fold, Call, All-in?

oriole · Apr 28, 2017

No information on both players.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 2000/4000 Blinds 400 Ante (7 handed) - Converted at http://www.handhistoryconverter.com

MP1 (t82,002)
CO (t99,252)
BB (t353,888)
Hero (Button) (t80,750)
MP2 (t74,083)
SB (t236,318)
UTG (t139,985)

Hero's M: 9.18

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, A

3 folds, CO raises t8,800, Hero calls t8,800, 1 fold, BB calls t4,800

Flop: (t31,200) 6

, 10

, 2

(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets t12,000, Hero calls t12,000, BB calls t12,000

Turn: (t67,200) 3

(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets t23,520, Hero ???

ianleel · Apr 28, 2017

I would go allin

Andrew Popov · Apr 28, 2017

Call does not make sense - you have too few chips. You must either reset now, or put all-in. The second is preferable.

gyciakasesu · Apr 28, 2017

lol rigged game online poker

PKRNRS · Apr 28, 2017

Yes, definitely shove on the flop. You had TPTK with the nut-flush redraw. I want to shut this down and take the pot. Too much passiveness in this hand. Having a shove on the flop saves you from making this decision on the turn.

oriole · Apr 28, 2017

Thanks for replies. Looking back I agree that I should have shoved the flop.
My thinking at the time was that I had the position and my raise would scare away BB from top pair or flush draw. Got a bit greedy. By the way I did shove turn and lost to flush.

armher · Apr 28, 2017

I will go all in

Senneville · Apr 28, 2017

You can call , bet , raise with this hand. Top pair nut flush draw and you dont want to be bad beat if you dont bet in this case.

ph_il · Apr 28, 2017

I don't like flatting the flop because another spade on the turn kills our action unless villain has Ks or a set. Even with the Ks and 4-to-a-flush on the board, it might be hard to get any value from our nut flush.

I don't think jamming the flop is necessary, but we definitely don't mind getting it in on the flop either as we have TPTK with 9 to the nut flush. I think if we jam, we let a lot weaker hands go to easily. If villain has something like 77-99 or AK, we lose value by forcing the fold.

So, I like min-raising here to something like 26K or 26.5K. We still price villain in to call with weaker hands like AK, especially with the Ks. And we give villain a good price to call with some weaker hands like 77-99 or even jam with weaker a top pair like J10 or Ks10. If villain just flats, we can easily jam turn for a ~40K into ~80K.

Of course, if villain has JJ+, they're jamming the flop and we can easily call as the pot will be giving us 2.5:1 to call and the odds of hitting the flush on turn or river is 1.86:1.

Jankou36 · Apr 28, 2017

At first I think I would fold preflop with AT and 20BB, but I'm strange, I play push/fold in the late stage... but if I were you, I would go all-in on the flop. On the turn I wouldn't be so sure cause they always can have two pairs, so that's why I go all-in as soon as possible, if I have best hand almost for sure. I repeat this again I'm not pro, I'm lucky.

oriole · Apr 29, 2017

ohshootmybad said:
I don't like flatting the flop because another spade on the turn kills our action unless villain has Ks or a set. Even with the Ks and 4-to-a-flush on the board, it might be hard to get any value from our nut flush.

I don't think jamming the flop is necessary, but we definitely don't mind getting it in on the flop either as we have TPTK with 9 to the nut flush. I think if we jam, we let a lot weaker hands go to easily. If villain has something like 77-99 or AK, we lose value by forcing the fold.

So, I like min-raising here to something like 26K or 26.5K. We still price villain in to call with weaker hands like AK, especially with the Ks. And we give villain a good price to call with some weaker hands like 77-99 or even jam with weaker a top pair like J10 or Ks10. If villain just flats, we can easily jam turn for a ~40K into ~80K.

Of course, if villain has JJ+, they're jamming the flop and we can easily call as the pot will be giving us 2.5:1 to call and the odds of hitting the flush on turn or river is 1.86:1.

Thank you for your analysis! I like the way you think. I always try to get the most value out of hands like these, so minraising has to be the best play here.

alextepi · Apr 29, 2017

I think I'll go all in.

Good like at the tables!!!

caponeto187 · Apr 30, 2017

jokr23 · Apr 30, 2017

I would probably raise or re raise but would not likely go all in not all in with that hand.

TheNutz4You · May 1, 2017

id shove the flop. he wouldnt of folded either way so not much would of changed.

reggie_g · May 1, 2017

shove flop shove turn

mex4el · May 1, 2017

I would go to all, many chances to win - the risk of a noble cause))

Dokins · May 1, 2017

I would go to all

TeUnit · May 1, 2017

Think with an effective stack size of 13bbs you either need to fold or shove.

Ace Ten is the prototypical negative implied odds hand. What are you hoping to hit on the flop?

Without stats on the villan think you should default to a tourney equity decision ie how far are you from the money.

P86 · May 1, 2017

Cold All in

vitorbonatto · May 1, 2017

i'd go all in or miniraise

rushdaman · May 1, 2017

I would have raised massively on the flop or just shoved all in after the flop you have the top pair and a chance at the nut flush.

vse i sra3y · May 1, 2017

Here I would prefer to call.

SuzdalDEcor · May 2, 2017

Flop - push, turn - call.

xkenjix · May 8, 2017

you couldnt pry me away from that hand on the flop, i ship on flop while doing a happy dance

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