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At ANY time in a tournament, if you would be eliminated, do you call an all-in push preflop when holding AA🤔🤔🤔
 
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Ideally when you aren't on the bubble and not multiway.
 
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enno said:
At ANY time in a tournament, if you would be eliminated, do you call an all-in push preflop when holding AA🤔🤔🤔
If I’m not calling someone’s all in jam when I’m holding AA pre flop I need to quit playing this game.
 
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Yes of course. Unless its a satellite, and I already have enough chips to fold my way into the money. In that situation my VPIP should be 0%, since additional chips have no value at all.
 
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I'd only fold AA in sats, if I'm already in a good position near the bubble. Specially if I'm been covered in chips.
 
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I don't think I could fold AA pre-flop under any circumstances...my brain would explode!
 
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Outside of satellite tournaments, that's really tough, no matter your situation. I've been knocked out a few times too, just one person away from ITM, with AA losing to QQ.
 
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The easiest and most obvious way to win the most with overpairs is to put as much money into the pot as possible. At low limits, there is no need to complicate things. With overpairs, bet big, often, and win the most.If you created a maniacal image for yourself at the table, I guarantee you would start making more money with your overpairs and other strong hands.You have to finally understand that in most cases in poker no one will have anything. And there is nothing you can do to change that.
 
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enno said:
At ANY time in a tournament, if you would be eliminated, do you call an all-in push preflop when holding AA🤔🤔🤔
My bad - I should rephrase my question - with emphasis on “ if you would be eliminated, do you fold to”.
With the exception of satellites or already in the money, do you feel the same?
 
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Pre flop if you have AA it's all in with your eyes closed without fear kkkkk
 
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I fold AA only in bubble circumstances
 
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Normally there is a clear answer and i think this answer could come from a lawyer. I say it depends on a situation in a normal mtt which is in my normal bankroll i call every preflop hand with aa, i have no thoughts do not calling near the itm bubble. But there are less situation i would find a fold. First if it is a sattelite and iam save in the tickets then i reduce my pace and fold every hand do not loose chips which are importand to hold some bb back. Another thing is if i play outside my normal bankroll because i get a ticket in sattelite or a gift, i would fold near the bubble, because a itm is very importand to climb the buyin equal to my bankrollrules.
 
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I go all-in and rebuy with a smile, haha!
 
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If I was after bad beats with a dew chips, most of the times I would go all in preflop with AA. Now maybe I wouldn't use this high pair in situations where the mathematical sequence showed bad news for AA. Like a session where I had seen the AA losing all the times.
 
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ICM can make it correct to fold AA preflop, it just rarely happens. Example: you're playing a double or nothing tournament with 10 players, now 6 are left, 5 of them have 8000 chips (you included) and one has 500 chips. In this situation every player with 8000 chips should shove 100% of hands (at least assuming the 500 chip players has already folded) and other players with 8000 chips should fold 100% of hands.
 
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I go all in no matter what. AA is very rare so I take the risk, and on top of that, the pair of aces looks excellent 🙂
 
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Of course, there were satellites where my stack allowed me to get a ticket and yes, I folded with “AA” and more than once. But if we're talking about tournaments with money guarantee, I've folded pocket "QQ" and "KK" on the bubble. But that was only a few times during my 16 years of playing poker. So I've never folded with “AA” in a cash guarantee tournaments. :ninja:
 
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Yes.A-A I don't throw in ollin.
 
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kdmeteor said:
ICM can make it correct to fold AA preflop, it just rarely happens. Example: you're playing a double or nothing tournament with 10 players, now 6 are left, 5 of them have 8000 chips (you included) and one has 500 chips. In this situation every player with 8000 chips should shove 100% of hands (at least assuming the 500 chip players has already folded) and other players with 8000 chips should fold 100% of hands.
If the player with 500 chips has folded, why would you take a chance on facing elimination with the possibility of being called or calling a shove (allowing the SS to claim the 5th spot)? This situation is simply a no brainer- fold and wait for the SS to be eliminated. You shouldn’t need ICM to tell you this.
 
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Let ICM be your guide.
 
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enno said:
At ANY time in a tournament, if you would be eliminated, do you call an all-in push preflop when holding AA🤔🤔🤔
Easy call, if not a satellite. You only fold AA preflop in satellites when you are deep enough to be guranteed to cash out. Aces just have too much equity preflop against any hand, that it can only be eliminated by the exceptional ICM levels of satellites.
 
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enno said:
At ANY time in a tournament, if you would be eliminated, do you call an all-in push preflop when holding AA🤔🤔🤔
If you close to money and you are short, you can fold AA pre flop, no shame
 
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enno said:
If the player with 500 chips has folded, why would you take a chance on facing elimination with the possibility of being called or calling a shove (allowing the SS to claim the 5th spot)? This situation is simply a no brainer- fold and wait for the SS to be eliminated. You shouldn’t need ICM to tell you this.
Because the remaining players should fold 100% of hands so there should be zero risk.

This is not practical but it's what the solver does, in that spot
 
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If all prizes are the same and your near the buddle and face elimination then yes, if the prizes are bigger the deeper you get, then it is worth playing.
 
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Only in bubble and being short because i lost a lot of times with AA in the b7bble is very cruel game
 
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