J10, QK, QJ, J9 SS?? all in hands?

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  • #51
When the situation is critical, then with hands you can go all-in, but in normal circumstances, these hands are not too confident.
 
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  • #52
15bb is a lot. It depends on the pot size, and your position, but a raise can be an option most of the cases with these hands or a fold. All-in is still risky against Ace high without seeing the flop. Or against any other better combinations.
 
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  • #53
For me, who a bit conservative, the better thing to do is waiting until flop. As we already know, many articles suggest shove if you around 15bb, most likely the one who call you have a good/better hand.

So, I'll wait until flop, if you have decent/good hand, then all in.
 
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  • #54
In my opinion the best choice with 15 BB it s to raise all in with these card s :D
 
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  • #55
Raise fold range

It dosnt have to be all in or fold with 15bb... a simple raise looks really strong with 15bb.. players wonder why u arent just shoving ... and the reason they come up with is u want action .... i raise fold AT A9 KT ect and mix in done traps..... be balanced .. dont do the same thing all the time or u become easy to play against.... alot of the time with a raise insted of a shove it will fet threw because it looks so strong
 
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  • #56
Sametimes it is ok calling allin if we are 10-15 BB left. I prefer to make a value bet instead of going allin or to call a small bet. I think best way is trying to see the floop cheaper you can.
 
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  • #57
Hey, with 15BB you can participate with all those hands, but it is not safe in all positions, from the button and the small blind you can take advantage of all these hands in a good way and get a good profit
 
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  • #58
If I can wait to see a cheap flop then I usually do with those hands. But less than 15BB it's depends on the position you are in
 
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It depends on which position we are in, blind war yes.
 
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azforlife said:
Just wondering, if you have about 15 bb & pick up one of these hands, in a deep stack tourney, is it ok to go all in? I do & it works out 60% of the time for me, wanted to know CCs take on it?
60 percent of the time it works all of the time..
 
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Dear friend AZforlife, most of the time yes, because these hands are all on the famous Nash table. But like everything in poker, it depends on the timing of the tournament, the size of your stack and the analysis of the sellers.

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  • #62
I would but if im only in position ,i dont like playing these cards anytime out of position
 
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  • #63
Yes sometimes I also go all in with these hands
 
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No
 
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azforlife said:
Just wondering, if you have about 15 bb & pick up one of these hands, in a deep stack tourney, is it ok to go all in? I do & it works out 60% of the time for me, wanted to know CCs take on it?
Probably yes ! But depends the opponents, you can raise all in and anyone call. But with 15 BB is normal you raise all in. Sometimes i dont shove all in, but anothers i shove.
 
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  • #66
Gaviria8 said:
I don't think so, too early to go all in with those hands, maybe you can steal the blinds from two weak players, but making an all in from UTG-MP-HJ I think isn't the proper movement, you will get called many times and It would be very strange that you were winning.

If the strategy is push or fold, these are not bad hands for the All-in. There is a chance there is a big chance that other players can call with a pair of 66 77, etc. of course I will not cancel the fact that we can lose to stronger hands, but this is already like a coin flip, it’s luck or not)
 
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  • #67
I guess i try to get better hands,but KQ is really good starting hand.
But if you are in trouble i guess then is ok with J 10,QK,but other starting hands is weak for preflop all in.
So there is no right answer for this.
 
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  • #68
This is my personal take, I will not go to push/fold mode if I'm not less than 12BB. In your example hands, I will just raise as usual to see flop. Then, decide it whether to shove or check/fold after flop.
 
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  • #69
15 BBs is a good stack depending on how good you are.
If your table is too aggresive maybe you should open your shove range.
 
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  • #70
I do not think it is an excellent idea, deep in a tournament players looking to double up stacks and wait for another big card, so you will probably find yourself behind most of the times. On the other hand if you are a lucky player- go ahead! Hope some day I will call you with KK:cool::cool:
Peace!
 
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  • #71
I think that with 10-15 big blinds are good hands to go all in

Sorry for my english :)
 
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