Why and how unknown players with no stats win big at PS?

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  • #51
hacker cant do that, this is either internal staff some employee vrom pokerstars with sudo password or house bot. But cant be real person with second tourbey on the site
 
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Brandon morris said:
Very true. Back to ur original problem. Just take it with a grain of salt. At the end of the day we all know deep down its not just our imagination that online poker deals much more "exciting" flops and rivers than at a casino. I just play the micros to pass the time an that way im not too upset if i suspect foul play

I can not agree with your point. Our psychology is designed in such way that we take it as OK when we win with KK and AA, we're forgetting about it really fast, cause this is what we expected, it's logical and that's why it's ok. But when we lose with AA vs let's say 57os on a coin flip and against some opponent who called your preflop push in a middle position with 0 chips invested - this is simply so irrational that we can not forget such loss for a long time, however it's quite a normal thing. In online poker you play much faster and much more hands during a period of time than you play in casino, so you're getting much more of such situations. I've studied psychology to improve my real life poker skills and to improve my behavior with customers. Understanding my psychology helped me a lot. The reason why you've said what you've said in your post, Brandon is behind your logic. You're expecting poker to be as logically correct as a cnc machine, but people = opponents are sometimes just too irrational. This might answer my problem too, BUT... You're not trusting it, because in your case "a tornado lifted Dorothys house and moved it to the land of Oz UNDAMAGED!" and you can't believe that it was true, that's the reason why you're not approaching to "Kansas" anymore and prefer to stay in NJ... In my case described in this post, a tornado smashed couple of skyscrappers in Florida, and used their materials to build a fully functional space station nearby the moon, moved up there an alligator and evolved it to reptiloid humanoid with iQ = 800. What a tornado, right? Give me 2 of such tornados, LOL, but that's what i believe happened out there in that tourney in other words. Ask yourself - you're sitting there, playing online poker for what? Are you a gambler or a winner? I can be honest - I've deposited not more than $500 in total at all sites alltogether since i've started playing the game. Majority of times i was starting with freebies given by some poker sites for passing exams or i used freeroll opportunites offered to build a bankroll, then climbed up the limits.This is just so simple, i can't see a reason why people lose in online poker, except for tilt or stupidity or bad bankroll management. If your strategy is good, you can calculate things in your mind, you have the time for long run and you can control yourself then obviously you'll be winning in the long run. Most common mistake is when people start thinking like this: "life is not eternal, so it's now or never" And even if "now" works one time - the natural greed next time is telling people that it was not enough, and if it worked once, then it will work again... That's the reason why the graph of some people looks like sinusoid, instead of parabola. You got to have a strong constitution if you want to win. Such set of laws that will never let you do stupid things in poker, like we're not eating dirt for breakfast in our lives, cause it's in our constitution. However nova days anything can happen, when people merry their toasters and iphones and government laws allow such... But after all it's natural selection. I won't quit playing, and i won't forget that case with that Hero and behavior of PS staff in that vid, but i still can't find a possible answer(s) to my question, just a few crazy ideas. So far i see that starting this post wasn't a good idea, i feel myself terrible when people come here and post jokes, crazy things and so on, like i'm a clown... well that's life, and that's internet, should expect such, the only thing i can do is to relax and joke back.


Peppinotom said:
Looks like that leads you to only one possible decision. You should ask your lawyer if you have a case here. :cool:


Hmm, I think i've got few more solutions!
1) call my nuke agent and ask if we can launch a hydrogen 20 megaton shorty at the PocketSmalls office to kill their servers.
2) if above method won't work, there is a good old saying - if you can't beat them, join them, so i have to talk with my hacker expert if we he has the red pill for me to go inside the Matrix.
3) join the "catholic church of muslim pork meat", to shave a head using holly grail and go deep down on the top of Everest mountain into jewish temple to join there buddhists for sacrifaction of a cow on fire for the Osiris god that rides the morgenstern on the holly wolf named Thor. This will definitely work. Such exorcism of poker donk from my head will not be for free, i'll have to pay 3 silver coins, 2 copper coins, a piece of garlic, a tooth of vampire and a spit of goldfish to the guard at the gates.
Have fun folks, i'm going to sleep.
 
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  • #53
What ur really thinkin deep down for the answer to ur question is simple. Ur thinking the software was rigged for this mystery winner. Quite possible nut to dwell on it wont solve ur dilemma . Thats why i say take it with a grain of salt . Either ur gonna accept it an keep playing . Or dwell on it and keep playing. Which choice is going to affect ur game more negatively in the long run. I was just trying to point out how deep down we all know the flops turns and rivers in online poker are way more "exciting" more often than in a live cardroom.so on some level we accept it and still play. Maybe im a purists but my online poker is more of a hobby to pass time. Playing in person is so much more direct and honest i find it much easier to blow off a bad beat in live scenarios.
 
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Brandon morris said:
What ur really thinkin deep down for the answer to ur question is simple. Ur thinking the software was rigged for this mystery winner. Quite possible nut to dwell on it wont solve ur dilemma . Thats why i say take it with a grain of salt . Either ur gonna accept it an keep playing . Or dwell on it and keep playing. Which choice is going to affect ur game more negatively in the long run. I was just trying to point out how deep down we all know the flops turns and rivers in online poker are way more "exciting" more often than in a live cardroom.so on some level we accept it and still play. Maybe im a purists but my online poker is more of a hobby to pass time. Playing in person is so much more direct and honest i find it much easier to blow off a bad beat in live scenarios.

I already said what i'm thinking deep down. In past i had terrible experience with my right leg. Medics from different clinics said the same thing - that if i want to walk again, i need a costly surgery and endoprosthesis intsalled. Without it i won't ever walk again and there is a risk of cancer, they might cut off my leg and if this won't be cured or i will stop visiting medics it may lead me to the cemetery. Back there it took me 30 minutes to go from my bed to wc and same time to go back again with terrible pain during the process, day by day. BUT you know what? I had my own special opinion about it. I've ignored what medics said, listened to my body with open mind and started to exercise, step by step, little by little i started walking again, jumping and running now. Like Confucius said - Long way starts with a small step. And i wasn't afraid to perform this step, instead of a short and easy way - laying down in bed and installing a piece of titanium inside the body for a load of money, i've ignored the pain and day by day brought my leg back to life. Back to this case, with a Hero bounty hunter and a tourny that ended weeks ago I'm feeling the same. Something was very wrong. I'm not listening to "experts" and i don't want to listen to PS staff in this case. It's obvious what they're going to say, it's obvious that experts over the web will be laughing and rofling about my post, telling me that i'm paranoid or a sherlock, or about Heros beginners luck and so on.


But i saw what i saw, assuming the number of facts (one of the main fact is that the Hero played trash in specific moments and was winning all the time, but he was folding at the simillar situation for some reason) i see it in such way: He wasn't good at poker at all. He played 1 game before that tourney, i think he studied the rules of poker after that. After he learned the rules of poker he decided to test his tricks on a small tourney, thinking that winning 2K+ isn't that much and noone will spot this. His behavior during the last 3+ hours of my observation can be explained easily - He had the information on flop\turn\river. I can not say for sure if he knew opponents cards too, maybe yes, maybe no. Most probably Yes. I believe that he was either intercepting data directly from the servers or had access to some sort of superuser account.
If it's true, i can only applause to that Hero. He used his skills to break into secured system. The system has to evolve now, it's all good. Hero got paid for his skills(or maybe not - idk and it doesn't matter), system got sign that it has to evolve to be better. The victims are the players, including me. Yes i've won some cash there, could be more, but i'm not that greedy. What i'm trying to do at this forumwith this post? I'm trying to find out if someone experienced the same, if such things happened in the past. Why do i need this? Cause i also want to evolve. If i can not do anything about such Hero, and such Heros DO EXIST then next time the best thing i can do about it is to finish the tourney in second place, instead of the 3rd. Simply let him knock out all of the remaining opponents and ignore all bets vs such Hero.If you can't beat them, and also if you can't jon them, what other options do you have?
 
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ya its just happening to often again I'm sitting at a cash table this guy isn't loosing, biggest stack at the table but knows when to call, calling big raises with j6o and smahes it.

but doesn't lose, u cant even put him on these weird calls
 
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even live people can get lucky playing like a fish and rack up some big money, but often do they leave with it, online they do all the time sorry it just doesn't work like that
 
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Do not follow the statistics of players. It's pressure on your psyche. I don't do it and play placidly. Who plays against me me not interested in.
 
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Jockerist said:
Do not follow the statistics of players. It's pressure on your psyche. I don't do it and play placidly. Who plays against me me not interested in.

Really? You must be a billionaire, right?
Do you check labels with prices at the supermarket when you're buying food? Do you know that at most of the countries in the middle east and at some other countries around the globe, when you're entering bazaar(market) you won't find any labels at all. Prices depend on who you are, what you're wearing and how do you behave there and bargain(chaffer) is always welcomed. If you accept everything as proposed then you can placidly buy a couple of toothpicks for $10K there. For some reason i don't see the labels on poker player nicknames at online tables, until i start writing them.
Being honest - I'm little bit "under the pressure" when i don't know who is sitting around me, but feel myself calm and relaxed after checking "the reputations".
Well, what's good for one isn't always good for other. Thanks for your opinion.
 
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Yes, this is a very interesting topic ... I heard that with the promotion million won the people in general without tournament statistics, which did not play then this time for $ 215 decides to play in the tournament and put it in first place ... as it is not clear)) ) Who says that the bots launder money to the site who says that this is about the players who create a new account that you do not score statistics ..... current arguments))))
 
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I write couple time about that
But I receive too many negatevive comments and I finish theme
In last 5 days I losse with AA in 60% cases
But many people here write me ''that's normal,this is poker''
ok,i accept his opinion but I do not understand why I can not win in 60% cases against AA
USSUALY I LOSSE IN 95% AGAINST AA
The last example is the game before 2 hours
PS Magic



 

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Newcomers are lucky!
 
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same tournaments

you stl think that's only luck?
 

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why do weak players sometimes win in poker? in poker there is a share of luck and if it were not poker would not collect millions of players and there would be some professionals who earn millions! I, too, when I first started playing the won tournament! but then my knowledge of poker was limited only by the knowledge of the combination and no strategy for the game was not! Yes, I think the guy just caught his day!
 
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and remember the Ace of aces against the flush of the piano at one of the poker championships!
 
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I, too, have lost my 70% for 30% of the failure period for the last 14 days, watch the bankroll continue to play your best game, if the bankroll is sitting low, but soon you will start returning everything!
 
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vavilen_ said:
I, too, have lost my 70% for 30% of the failure period for the last 14 days, watch the bankroll continue to play your best game, if the bankroll is sitting low, but soon you will start returning everything!
if I understand you well, you suggest that I fold AA when somebody call all in
and after that to play my best game :)
Thanks for advice....
 
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no, of course, I just suggest you have the patience and do not change the style of the game and play your best game and watch the bankroll)
 
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no, of course, I just suggest you have the patience and do not change the style of the game and play your best game and watch the bankroll)
Ok ,if you suggest me to be patience I must fold AA
I do not call all in in AK or AQ
 
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The league has 52 tournaments
If it happens that I lose with A in 5 tournaments, what are my chances for a good result
On the other hand, the player with 88 ... 66 ... 99 makes every time a winning hand
What is that?
Magic or something else?


Watch
magic612 pokerstars in YouTube....maybe you understand little better about what I speak

 
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this is not magic is poker! I recently passed the poker academy's iron mtt jn course! coach so said everyone loses with AA always watch for the bankroll and play your best game! poker is not only your 2 cards! this is psychology, luck, patience, and of course distance! play a lot of something to your 70% to 30% bring in a plus!
 
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vavilen_ said:
this is not magic is poker! I recently passed the poker academy's iron mtt jn course! coach so said everyone loses with AA always watch for the bankroll and play your best game! poker is not only your 2 cards! this is psychology, luck, patience, and of course distance! play a lot of something to your 70% to 30% bring in a plus!
So you are a pro player
You have only one story and write same things again and again
Of course AA can not win always...but also can not loose in 60% cases
But I see you do not want listen...you listen only your voice and just repeat same message
Wish you good day.....
 
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go into your hmm or poker tracker and put filters, with the hand that seems to you that it constantly loses you will be surprised how wrong you were!
 
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'm not a professional player, I'm just learning and that's why I'm here!
 
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  • #74
Maybe it's better to look at your statistics
Now I see with what kind of hand you play al in
And now I understand everything :)



 

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in this hand we had a weak limper who came limping a second time, I'm ahead of his range and you're short on the normal pushbut, assuming that the bb is 150 \ 300! nice to meet you)
 
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