[200BB] Thought process breakdown — QQ in 4-bet pot facing turn shove (am I overfolding here?)

[tiscoatthedisco]

My thought process:

Hero (BTN): 26/21 | 3B 10.9 | 4B 12.6 | hands: 11.2k
Villain (SB): 23/19 | 3B 12.8 | 4B 7.4 | Hands: 1.6k
Effective stack: ~200BB

Preflop:
Hero opens BTN to 2.5BB, SB 3-bets to 10BB, Hero 4-bets to 24BB with Q♠Q♦, SB calls.
(In hindsight, not sure if I should size a bit bigger OOP vs IP dynamic—maybe 26–28BB to lower SPR and make his flats more expensive.)

Flop (Pot ~49BB): A♣7♠3♦
SB checks, Hero bets 11BB, SB calls.

Turn (Pot ~71BB): 6♠
SB checks, Hero bets 22BB, SB jams ~154BB effective, Hero folds.

River: (doesn’t apply)

Showdown:
Villain didn’t show.

My thoughts:
This hand is messing with me because it feels like a classic “4-bet pot, A-high flop, I have a bluff-catcher” spot… but the turn jam line seems insanely value-heavy in practice.

Preflop: I 4-bet QQ because I’m on the BTN vs SB 3-bet and I don’t want to flat and let BB in / play a bloated pot capped. When he flats the 4-bet though, I think his range becomes very condensed: a lot of AK/AQ, some slowplayed AA/KK (sometimes), and a bunch of pocket pairs that didn’t want to 5-bet (JJ/TT), plus maybe suited broadways at low frequency.

Flop: On A♣7♠3♦, I c-bet small because this board hits my perceived range hard and I want to fold out the weaker parts of his 4-bet calling range (like KQss/KJs type hands if he has them). When he check-calls, I’m already thinking he has a lot of Ax, some stubborn pairs, and the occasional trap.

Turn: The check-jam is the big problem. What bluffs does he realistically have after 3-bet → call 4-bet → check-call A-high flop?

• Random air is basically gone.
• If he has spade draws, they’re limited because the flop wasn’t two-tone (only one spade on flop), so he can’t have a natural flop FD that now “decides to rip”.
• The value region seems huge: AK/AQ (especially if he thinks I barrel too much), sets (77/33), and sometimes slowplayed AA/KK. Even hands like AJ (if he ever flats pre) could show up.

In-game I tried to justify a call with “maybe he’s turning something like JJ/TT into a bluff” or “maybe he thinks I’m range-c-betting and overbarreling,” but when I actually list the combo candidates, it feels like I’m just hoping he’s spazzing.

So I folded QQ… but I’m not confident. If population underbluffs this line, fold is great. If he’s capable of turning medium pairs into bluffs (or overplaying AQ/AK), I might be folding too much.

What are your thoughts?

• Is my flop c-bet fine, or should I check back more with QQ on A-high boards in 4-bet pots?
• When SB flats the 4-bet, how narrow/value-heavy do you make his range?
• Facing the turn check-jam, is this just an exploit fold vs most regs, or do we need to call sometimes to avoid getting run over?

Hand history below.

NL Holdem 0+0 (200BB)
SB ($20000) [VPIP: 23 | PFR: 19 | AGG: 36 | Hands: 1600 | 3Bet: 12.8 | 4Bet: 7.4]
BB ($20000) [VPIP: 20 | PFR: 16 | AGG: 28 | Hands: 900]
CO ($20000)
HERO ($20000) [VPIP: 26 | PFR: 21 | AGG: 33 | Hands: 11200]

Dealt to Hero: Q♠ Q♦

HERO Raises To $250, SB Raises To $1000, HERO Raises To $2400, SB Calls $1400

Hero SPR on Flop: ~3.9 effective
Flop ($4900): A♣ 7♠ 3♦
SB Checks, HERO Bets $1100 (Rem. Stack: $16500), SB Calls $1100 (Rem. Stack: $16500)

Turn ($7100): A♣ 7♠ 3♦ 6♠
SB Checks, HERO Bets $2200 (Rem. Stack: $14300), SB Raises To $16500 (allin), HERO Folds

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
100BB deep your 4-betting size is fine or even a bit large, but 200BB deep you can go bigger, since you are not approaching the point, where you have committed yourself. I think, up to 30BB would be fine.

Flop
Pretty standard to bet range for a small sizing in a 4-bet pot.

Turn
4-bet pots dont come up that often especially in tournaments, so I will not claim, I am an expert in this. But why are we betting here again? At some point we have to slow down with QQ, when there is an ace on the board. As played an easy fold.

 

[martinlgs]

Hey tiscoatthedisco,

Thanks for the clear breakdown — good range work.
Preflop 4-bet with QQ is standard and correct from the button. The size to 24BB is playable, though in 2026 many players use 27-30BB vs SB 3-bets to make the flat more expensive and lower SPR.
Flop small c-bet on A73r is reasonable — it denies equity to KQ/KJ type hands and keeps the pot manageable.

The turn is the spot that stands out. After SB check-calls the A-high flop and then check-jams the 6♠, his range is quite condensed and value-heavy. Natural bluffs are limited (the flop wasn’t draw-heavy), so AK, AQ, sets and slowplayed AA/KK make up most of his continuing range. Medium pairs turning into bluffs on this line are still low frequency in 2026 at these stakes.

I think folding QQ is the correct decision here against typical regs. You’re not overfolding — population still underbluffs this line heavily.

If you know Villain can turn JJ/TT into bluffs with this exact line, then you can start calling lighter, but that’s more of an exploit against specific players.
Would you consider checking back more QQ on A-high boards in 4-bet pots to avoid these difficult spots?

♥️♣️♦️♠️

 

[Station_Master]

Not sure why you would bet turn, its the clearest check back hand then decide on river if you want to bluff catch