Hero vs 2 whales in a min 3bet pot :)

[TheNutz4You]

Fun hand I played tonight on stars Michigan.
My main question is if I should flat the turn bet, to allow the other whale in the hand left to act to be able to call and continue to the river?
The button has been doing that min 3bet all day with a wide range of hands from QTo, J8o, KQs and twice with small pocket pairs. These all went to showdown, but he had a 42% 3bet stat for todays session only, so he was min 3betting a ton.

the stats of each player in the hand play a huge role in this hand and are below. Suffice to say, they are both very high end rec fun players that love to splash around.

player in SB was 64/27/12 vpip/pfr/3bet over 594 hands in my database
player on the button was 39/14/6 vpip/pfr/3bet over 7000 hands in my database

I feel if I just flatted the turn, the button might of come along, but wanted to get the money in before an action killing river card came ect.
Knowing what the SB had now, it wouldn't of mattered as I would get it all on the river as it happened.
The chance either held AK of any kind was 1 in 100, as he tended to size up his 3bet when strong as well.



PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

NA: $0.00 (0 bb)
UTG: $9.59 (96 bb)
CO (Hero): $11.93 (119 bb)
BU: $37.65 (377 bb)
SB: $10.12 (101 bb)
BB: $9.73 (97 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q♠ 9♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN 3-bets to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($1.30) 8♥ K♥ T♠ (4 players)
SB bets $0.52, Hero calls $0.52, BTN calls $0.52

Turn: ($2.86) J♠ (4 players)
SB bets $1.35, Hero raises to $6.30, BU folds, SB calls $4.95

River: ($15.46) K♠ (3 players)
SB bets $2.90 (all-in), Hero calls $2.90

Total pot: $21.26 (Rake: $1.17)

Showdown:
SB shows K♦ J♥ (a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

NA mucks
CO (Hero) shows Q♠ 9♠ (a straight flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) wins $20.09




https://www.casino.us/poker/tools/replayer/?hand=525AcxtCQ

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Standard open and obviously we cant fold to a min-click. At the same time I dont see any reason to 4-bet this hand, so its a sigh-call.

Flop
Now SB leads out (donk bet) after cold calling the 3-bet out of position just further confirming, he is a fish. But even so I dont think, this is a long term profitable call. You only have a gutshot and BDFD, and you are not drawing to the nuts. Any J will give AQ a better straight, and Jh might give someone a flush. You are also not closing the action. The preflop 3-bettor is still left to act behind you. And even though he is a fish, he can still have some strong hands like AA, KK, AK or TT, that he might want to raise when donked into.

Turn
Obviously the gin card, and I agree with raising, but your sizing is a problem. It looks like, you hit the "pot" bottom or something, And this is bad, because it commits you to the pot but still leave a little bit behind for the river. The problem with this is, that if someone is drawing, they might just call and then check-fold the river.

And at the same time any made hand will understand, that the rest of the chips will likely go in on the river. So its not like any made hand will call "pot" but fold to a jam. You can either jam or make a small raise, that leaves at least a half pot sized bet for the river. The latter will basically be a minclick, and with a fishy guy behind as well as having picked up a flushdraw, that would be my preferred play.

River
Obviously nothing to analyse here.

 

[bremp555]

Interesting hand.

Raising the turn makes a lot of sense here. With two very loose players in the pot there are many worse hands and draws that can continue, so building the pot while you are far ahead is good. Waiting might allow a scary river to slow the action.

If someone comes along behind that is great, but I would not pass up the chance to get money in while the board is still favorable. Sometimes the straightforward value line is the best one.

 

[John A]

Everything looks ok minus the turn. You should just be jamming based on stack size. The reset is up to the poker gods.