Do I fold my pocket 10s

[kenmingquan]

I have pockets 10s at bb post vs co raising to 12bb. I made a 3 bet and co made a 4 bet. I all in my hands and do shows pocket aces. Do I need to fold when he 4 bets me?

 

[Mantinhoo]

Yes — most of the time a 4-bet from CO at 12bb stacks is extremely strong, often AA/KK. With TT, you’re usually crushed, so folding is the best play.

 

[fundiver199]

Did CO straight up open raise to 12BB? Thats highly unusual, and I think, TT is just a call or maybe even a fold in that situation, given that you are out of position. Was this a live game or online?

 

[primrose]

underspecified; we need stakes and stack sizes.

 

[SpanRmonka]

Making an assumption we are the micros, players do not 4 bet bluff, their range is very tight, and at worst AQs+ JJ+, are they ever 4 betting 99??? Almost never ever. You may get some spewy crazy guys, but if you haven't identified one then they're not one, or you should be paying more attention
So this is annoying, but has to be a fold.

 

[neverbluff0799]

Making an assumption we are the micros, players do not 4 bet bluff, their range is very tight, and at worst AQs+ JJ+, are they ever 4 betting 99??? Almost never ever. You may get some spewy crazy guys, but if you haven't identified one then they're not one, or you should be paying more attention
So this is annoying, but has to be a fold.

Its micro bro could be 96 of spade or 22 lets be real haha SLAM DONK CALL unless i know the other player know how to play haha

 

[primrose]

Its micro bro could be 96 of spade or 22 lets be real haha SLAM DONK CALL unless i know the other player know how to play haha

Micro means the ranges are tighter, not wider.

 

[Reddog888]

I have pockets 10s at bb post vs co raising to 12bb. I made a 3 bet and co made a 4 bet. I all in my hands and do shows pocket aces. Do I need to fold when he 4 bets me?

pair 10 is also a strong hand, but I need more data to make a correct judgment, including how many bb chips you have in total. How many chips have entered the pot?

 

[Stringy]

probably would have folded especially if it awas early in the game/tournament

 

[fundiver199]

underspecified; we need stakes and stack sizes.

Even the action is not clear. Did CO open raise to 12BB, or was it Hero, who 3-bet to 12BB? The latter would be pretty standard, but the first situation is so unusual, it makes no sense to talk about a general strategy for it, since its completely dependent on, which reads we have on the opponent. If he is playing stats like VPIP 72 / PFR 43 and open raise to 12BB, then I would probably just jam TT even for 100BB and let him make a decision for all the chips. But if he is playing stats like VPIP 11 / PFR 9 and do the same thing, I would not put in a 3-bet, and I might even fold.

 

[Sunz of Beaches]

Micro means the ranges are tighter, not wider.

Yes players who play on micros seriously in general have a tighter range than on higher levels.

But there are also tons of donkeys and players that are goofing around and they certainly not have a tight range.

 

[Rmi]

JJ is always down far behind against 4-bet.

 

[pavel1111111]

I think îs a ,,fold,, but then again this days everythimg îs possible 😅

 

[fewerz]

I would fold.
JJ also fold. It depends on the person you played against before. In some cases, I even fold QQ against tight players.

 

[Prophet]

I have pockets 10s at bb post vs co raising to 12bb. I made a 3 bet and co made a 4 bet. I all in my hands and do shows pocket aces. Do I need to fold when he 4 bets me?

You don’t gotta fold TT to a 4-bet , only if you know the CO is tight and the stacks are deep....
But if he is LAG who might 4-bet any two cards, or push anyone with a short stack, and thats why you must focus on their range, stack sizes, and tourney stage, not just the result.
If you're not sure about his style , lean toward folding TT , and read the table , in preparation for the next opportunity

 

[DarkSage]

I would probably also fold a JJ, but I'm not sure if I would have the strenght needed to fold a QQ kkkkk

 

[darkness88]

I have pockets 10s at bb post vs co raising to 12bb. I made a 3 bet and co made a 4 bet. I all in my hands and do shows pocket aces. Do I need to fold when he 4 bets me?

Are you playing cash table or tourney? Also how many BBs did you start the hand with?

 

[darkness88]

Yes — most of the time a 4-bet from CO at 12bb stacks is extremely strong, often AA/KK. With TT, you’re usually crushed, so folding is the best play.

Come on mantin. We don't know enough information to give a real response?!? 4 bets can happen with any range depending on the player alone.

 

[sibkaz]

Easier to reset)

 

[sandy358]

Micro means the ranges are tighter, not wider.

Naah, from my experience maniacs and calling stations are 75% of the field. Though I play the lowest micro MTTs, maybe the field is different.

 

[primrose]

Naah, from my experience maniacs and calling stations are 75% of the field. Though I play the lowest micro MTTs, maybe the field is different.

Wider calling for sure, but wider preflop jamming?

 

[tanzilomee]

Yes. I fold it.

 

[sandy358]

Wider calling for sure, but wider preflop jamming?

Ehh, happens. There are enough maniacs that bluff every second hand and even the notorious calling stations who usually jam very good hands will often jam with garbage just because it looked good.

Though, again, we are in a micro cash game scenario, and I've heard often enough that people there are far too tight, so the field is most likely different (not sure if it is so because I play the lowest micros or it's an MTT thing. Probably the former, as from what I've seen mid micro MTT are relatively better, but haven't played much there as I'm not bankrolled for those).

 

[kenmingquan]

Did CO straight up open raise to 12BB? Thats highly unusual, and I think, TT is just a call or maybe even a fold in that situation, given that you are out of position. Was this a live game or online?

Yes he raised to 12bb

 

[renisundernet]

If you are on a roll and have chips. go ahead. Otherwise I doubt the potential of 1010s against such betting by opponent. The opponent may have 99 but has the advantage nevertheless because of the initiative.