Hand History Audit

[Styrofoam]

I'm not great ... but i am pretty knowladgeable on the THEORY of poker...(the actually theories, not hte book lol) so i could help if needed, but i'm not tooting my horn.

 

[robwhufc]

F.P. is a great nominee; I nominate Jesus Lederer, Dorkus, and tenbob. Just throwing some names out there. We have so many great players here, it's hard to just nominate a few.

Not that hard, obviously.

 

[Four Dogs]

I 2nd FP JL TB Dork.
All panal members must be able to dispassionately and analytically critique the a body of work without casting judgment on one or two questionable hands.

They must remain proffessional and refrain from disparaging comments which may be seen as insulting or lacking purpose.

They should be relatively well read and have a strong enough knowledge conventional poker strategy to take various playing styles into consideration.

While appraising someone elses play, the betting patterns and behaviors of opponents must be considered.

Notice to anyone thinking of submitting a session for review. If your feelings are easiliy hurt, don't.

 

[t1riel]

Well, I don't usually track my played hands but I know my game needs work. Let's say my hand history is a college thesis paper. It will be covered in red ink for corrections and mistakes.

 

[Jesus Lederer]

Thanks for the nomination but i can´t accept because i know i wouldn´t do a good job. I´m in the beggining of my poker career and consider myself as a newbie. I just can´t compare myself with players like FP, Dorkus or tenbob. Also i´m very bad analyzing hands, i don´t consider i have too much to contribute when there are already great replies by better players. That´s the reason of why i prefer reading the poker strategies section instead of replying (that explains why you can see me online almost all the day but i have just 1.01 post per day).
The last reason is that i want to participate in this audit but from the other side. I want to send my HH, so i would appreciate if you answer this questions Bill: Does the 4 hours session needs to be at a full table? What are the minimum limits and buy in for the ring games and MTT, respectively?

ps: My nominees are FP, Dorkus, tenbob and FD.

 

[Tammy]

and if we can get him, Grum...........

Of course! How could I forget our dear Mr. Dook!

 

[Bill_Hollorian]

Ok If I understand correctly
Jesus Lederer, joosebuck, Dorkus Malorkus, and Brianna C. want an audit.

Everyone nominated other folks to give an alternate audit, but no one volunteered.

Well, let's get started. Can we make a poll, for whos hand history should we do?
Also, can we send attachements in pm?

Cool
Bill

 

[robwhufc]

Ok If I understand correctly
Jesus Lederer, joosebuck, Dorkus Malorkus, and Brianna C. want an audit.

Everyone nominated other folks to give an alternate audit, but no one volunteered.

Well, let's get started. Can we make a poll, for whos hand history should we do?
Also, can we send attachements in pm?

Cool
Bill

NOOOOOOOOOOO! Bill, once you do a poll, nothing ever gets done! Brianna C was first to reply - get him to send you history as a trial. I'll do an alternate audit as well - others should as well, don't need to be "experts", it'll just be interesting to see what different people pick up.
Dennis, i hope you're made of stern stuff!!!

 

[Dennis C]

NOOOOOOOOOOO! Bill, once you do a poll, nothing ever gets done! Brianna C was first to reply - get him to send you history as a trial. I'll do an alternate audit as well - others should as well, don't need to be "experts", it'll just be interesting to see what different people pick up.
Dennis, i hope you're made of stern stuff!!!

I'm made of glass and have been known to crumble, but I think I can handle it. Just don't make the baby cry.

 

[Alon Ipser]

I am just going to be an observer on this one but would like to say that that the choices for audit look to be good players. I would hope when the panel does the audit they would discuss why some hands that were played correctly and not just focus on incorrectly played hands. While discussing the incorrectly played hands helps the one being audited, I think talking about correctly played hands would help the rest of us. If this was the plan anyway then nevermind.

 

[tenbob]

Everyone nominated other folks to give an alternate audit, but no one volunteered.

Ok, i have no problem in doing an alternative audit. Bear in mind that its been over 6 years since i took on a statistical sample this large, and never a poker one. However maybe a few different angles on things would be good.

Just a few questions Bill. Is there a specific way or template in which a hand audit is to be done or is it done on the fly (so to speak)

Dennis remember you can always email your hand histories to whoever is prepared to audit them.

 

[Dennis C]

Dennis remember you can always email your hand histories to whoever is prepared to audit them.

Yea TB I've got the one ready and waiting for tear down. It has 167 hands and as I said earlier it was one up and down tourney. So whoever wants it let me know.

 

[Bill_Hollorian]

Two cheers for TenBob. On a side note Tenbob I want to nominate you as a hand captain next hand on poker pros. There has got to be a better way to form a strategy over there.

BTW I thought Brianna C. was a girl this whole time. oops! lol

I dont know if there is a way to allow attachments in this thread in the future. I just created an anon. email, I guess send it there.

[email protected]

Cool TenBob ill pm you if a format develops and vice versa. Robwhuc why dont you join us as an auditor as well?

Yes, it should be fair, compliments and critiques as they go. This will be public from here. A new thread will be started called Brianna C audit

Cool
Bill

 

[Dennis C]

Well Bill I sent it to you and if and I'll give you the what. This tourney had 1,138 ppl and I finished 87th. It payed 20%. If anyone else wants it let me know. TB I'm sending you a copy now.

 

[tenbob]

Ok Dennis, thanks. Just bear in mind that this is a project ill be puttiing an hour or two into in the evenings, so depending on exactly how much detail it gets depends on the time etc. I would be good if myself, Bill and Rob could agree on a basic template under which to work.

 

[Four Dogs]

Just a thought. rather than PM a hand history, (if that's even possible) perhaps Bills anonymous email address, or another one ([email protected]?) could be created, and the password given out to anyone wishing to contribute.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

[email protected]

Fire away. Dunno how busy I'll be over the weekend, but I'll try and take a look at some point.

 

[tenbob]

Damn a full page of error messages when i put that history into PT, can you try it again Dennis, just wondering if you reformatted it in any way ?

Here is the error :

brianna c.txt : Unable to get the blind structure for tournament game # -568981203.
brianna c.txt : Unable to get the blind structure for tournament game # -568968271.
brianna c.txt : Unable to get the blind structure for tournament game # -568950569.
brianna c.txt : Unable to get the blind structure for tournament game # -568937920.

You get the message.

 

[Dennis C]

That was the mail as sent to me strait from Stars. It has listed what the blinds are, but past that I don't know.

Dorkus your copy is on the way.

 

[Four Dogs]

Dennis, was that mailed to you? Try sending the one saved on your hard drive. Go to program files/pokerstars/[user-name]/handhistories. If you enabled this option in your pokerstars account, your hand histories will automatically be saved for a specified period. Default is 30 days I believe, but you can set it for as long or as short as you wish. That being said, I would think the one they sent you would work.

 

[tenbob]

Maybe Chris will have better luck, ive tried Dennis one several times and im still getting a full page of error messages with 0 hands imported.

 

[robwhufc]

I was just going to go through it and pick out hands I think he played well, and hands I think he didn't. I dont see why you need to import it to poker tracker when you've got the actual hand history in front of you!

 

[Bill_Hollorian]

My original experiment regards metagame bayes logic, with equilibrium play to maximize information reduction.

I was willing to exchange critiques and compliments while simultaneously accomplishing my other goals.

Im having trouble poppin that one open myself...

No worries we'll figure it out. In the meantime do you have one from partypoker or something?

Bill

 

[Dennis C]

I've only got Stars histories. Sorry if that didn't work, but thanks for trying. I look forward to seeing what Rob has to say though.

 

[F Paulsson]

Two things:

1. You guys give me way too much credit.

2. I'm in Beijing for a week in business, so can't really be of much service right now, but I'll be happy to catch round two when I get back home.

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamseng!

(I believe that's a popular way of saying "cheers", here)

/Fredrik