These bad beats gotta have a counter.

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I been thinking how to avoid bad beats and although i havent figured it out yet, i believe there is a way to do it. Lately I have been trying to only play ppl when i have position on them and to only call with Phil's top ten hands. I figure that being the aggressor more often means that i cant be the caller unless its Phil's lol top ten. So, i shortened my calling range outta position and slightly widened my late Position range calling range a bit. Lastly i don't call to many all ins pre unless i got a pair jacks or better and the ace king ace queen when the price is 2to1 or better. well there are many other factors i added but these are just a few. I mean theres ICM play and bubble play. rebuy games tend to change things for me anyway. let me know what yall beeen doing.
 
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If you want to avoid bad beats I advice you to quit poker, because you don't understand it. It's part of it, just accept it and go on
 
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If you want to lessen the effects, then start playing nitty as all get out. Do not play loose at all. This will not stop them, but should help bring less.
 
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eagleaces said:
I been thinking how to avoid bad beats and although i havent figured it out yet, i believe there is a way to do it. Lately I have been trying to only play ppl when i have position on them and to only call with Phil's top ten hands. I figure that being the aggressor more often means that i cant be the caller unless its Phil's lol top ten. So, i shortened my calling range outta position and slightly widened my late Position range calling range a bit. Lastly i don't call to many all ins pre unless i got a pair jacks or better and the ace king ace queen when the price is 2to1 or better. well there are many other factors i added but these are just a few. I mean theres ICM play and bubble play. rebuy games tend to change things for me anyway. let me know what yall beeen doing.

I've played Phil's "Top 10 Hands" before. In fact, it is a really good nitty strategy that will help beginners starting out. Just know that this simplistic approach is not going to minimize bad beats that much - it will simply mean you will be playing less hands and getting maybe a little more credit on your hands because opponents observe what cards you are turning over.

Just don't forget that in Hellmuth's book Play Poker Like The Pros (where you got the Top 10 Hands list I'm virtually certain) also has an intermediate section called "Majority Hands" and an advanced section where he could play any two cards (but with balance and selection; not playing 100% of the time to the flop).

Personally, I switch between these Hellmuth "gears" as well as that of other pros. At least for me, I try to adapt to what the table is allowing me to play. As for bad beats, playing more hands means you'll have more swings (up or down), but even the Top 10 Hands Hellmuth gives can get into trouble if not careful. For example, AQ is in the bottom of the Top 10 Hand list, but this hand is not one you want to keep firing away with if you hit nothing; it is still Ace-high if missed; plus, if you are up against a real hand, then any pocket pair may be ahead and even AK has you beat as AQ plays second fiddle to that too. Don't get me wrong, AQ is a nice hand, but just tightening up preflop a ton won't get rid of bad beats; you'll just face them less often because you are playing hands less often, but you'll also win less often too.

There is no way of really minimizing bad beats/luck from happening - that is just variance and statistics at work. The best you can do is get it in on +EV plays and hope for the best. Long-term, it will balance out; but in the short-term, luck is always a factor.
 
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bad beats can't bother you, if you played + EV, it doesn't really matter the result. the important thing for me is how I played. but it’s just my opinion.
 
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I think there are several other ways to avoid a bad beat.



well id like to know your tips point is to try to learn new ways to avoid them when possible.
 
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I don't think that's a bad strategy as a beginner but will be easy for a decent player to learn and take advantage of. Pay attention to when players are trying to steal pots away from you and quitting when you continue on. You will lose a lot of your value.

Be even more careful if they have been doing this and then decide to bet at you. They likely know you have a strong starting hand that they feel they can beat.
 
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A very unpleasant situation for any poker player, it usually leads to tilt and is considered a special case of downswing.

Bad bit example:
"Preflop I was sure that my pair of kings was dominating, so I went all-in, my opponent had a pair of fives, but on the river I caught a bad beat and my opponent got a set of fives."

Bad beat jackpots
In fact, this phenomenon cannot be avoided: every poker player will experience this unpleasant phenomenon on himself at least once in his career. Therefore, many online poker rooms offer special insurance against some special bad beat situations, and even special jackpots are raffled. Typically, the Bad Beat jackpot involves a combination of at least four of the same.
 
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