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Does anyone has received GGCare from New Year until now, i checked hands and looks only player receive for GGCheers.

Also weird thing is less than 10k player participate, before New year always 14-15k+ players.

In past this hand was sure GGCare, but player didn't receive nothing. Because only 1 combination beat your hand.
 

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budaloto said:
Kapott már valaki GGCare-t újévtől mostanáig? Megnéztem a kezeket és úgy néz ki, hogy csak a játékosok kapják meg a GGCheers-t.

Az is furcsa, hogy kevesebb, mint 10 ezer játékos vesz részt, újév előtt mindig 14-15 ezer+ játékos van.

A múltban ez a leosztás biztos volt a GGCare-ben, de a játékos nem kapott semmit. Mert csak egy kombináció győzte le a kezedet.
It is possible that GG tightened on it, but they did not send a notification about it...
 
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csabika94 said:
It is possible that GG tightened on it, but they did not send a notification about it...
but in that case only Tournament players will benfit more, and China bots farm.
 
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gg is a complete joke and china bots are 99% of their site, just don't play there. ggcares is much worse as well
 
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GGCares was so much better in past these days can barely receive chips
 
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budaloto said:
but in that case only Tournament players will benfit more, and China bots farm.
Incorrect
GGCheers and Thanks stacks are awarded predominantly in cashgame.
I wouldn't mind the chinese bot farms... They don't have a hold over GG.
If we talk about ACR, that's maybe a different story...
 
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I didn't receive anything, I don't play cash games.
 
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I didn't receive anything, I don't play cash games.

I've only qualified through spin n gold, and £1/2 bounty tournaments.

Doesn't need to be cash game.
 
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Incorrect
GGCheers and Thanks stacks are awarded predominantly in cashgame.
I wouldn't mind the chinese bot farms... They don't have a hold over GG.
If we talk about ACR, that's maybe a different story...
Tournaments player get GGthanks points when they are busted in bubble period. If 5k players less, because GGCare didnt triger bad beat and cooler.

What is incorect?

Finaly old system is back.
 
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budaloto said:
Tournaments player get GGthanks points when they are busted in bubble period. If 5k players less, because GGCare didnt triger bad beat and cooler.

What is incorect?
No that part is correct but only at the bubble.. that's why the most of the people play cash to get the GGthanks/Cheers stacks
 
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From my observations, they have limited the access to ThanksGG qualification in the begginning of the year - it is harder to qualify now. The sum of the reward stayed the same (100K), so in general it should not have a big impact for regular players.

I have read on rededit some speculations, that it was limited because some people abused it sitting at the same table with friends and producing easy accesible points (it usually was enough to win/loose the 4$ stack on 9max, no matter what cards).

GG does not notify about changes nor exact conditions of getting chips for this flipout by the rule. This is GG help quotation:

"#ThanksGG - How do I get invited to the #ThanksGG Flipout tournament?
Players will be added to the tournament based on qualification by winning with a big pot (GGCheers) or losing a big pot with a cooler (GGCare).

The specific details vary game by game and are often changed based on numerous outside factors. As such, the exact conditions that trigger these events will not be specifically enumerated, Our team of game experts will continuously look for unlucky situations throughout gameplay and will add more trigger points."


From the other hand - it was almost 15K in today's flipout, perhaps it has changed again? We will see soon.

As for chinesse bots - if anyone meet such ones, please let us know - I would like to play against them ;)
(but I seriously doubt they exist on GG)
 
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Mario7 said:
From my observations, they have limited the access to ThanksGG qualification in the begginning of the year - it is harder to qualify now. The sum of the reward stayed the same (100K), so in general it should not have a big impact for regular players.

I have read on rededit some speculations, that it was limited because some people abused it sitting at the same table with friends and producing easy accesible points (it usually was enough to win/loose the 4$ stack on 9max, no matter what cards).

GG does not notify about changes nor exact conditions of getting chips for this flipout by the rule. This is GG help quotation:

"#ThanksGG - How do I get invited to the #ThanksGG Flipout tournament?
Players will be added to the tournament based on qualification by winning with a big pot (GGCheers) or losing a big pot with a cooler (GGCare).

The specific details vary game by game and are often changed based on numerous outside factors. As such, the exact conditions that trigger these events will not be specifically enumerated, Our team of game experts will continuously look for unlucky situations throughout gameplay and will add more trigger points."


From the other hand - it was almost 15K in today's flipout, perhaps it has changed again? We will see soon.

As for chinesse bots - if anyone meet such ones, please let us know - I would like to play against them ;)
(but I seriously doubt they exist on GG)
It's back again old system, only different was GGCare (badbeat and coolers) didnt give points. Which make so diffucal to play in Cash tables, rake eat so much.
China farm bots play seat on same table 9players, and only grind GGthanks points. For that is imposible you to play against them, i have reported at GGtahanks more than 50 bots, they abbuse promo. pre flop everyone pay 1bb, than on flop they all pay 2bb, than on turn they go 4bb, and before show down jump with nothing (high card J or T) :D
 
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It's back again old system, only different was GGCare (badbeat and coolers) didnt give points. Which make so diffucal to play in Cash tables, rake eat so much.
China farm bots play seat on same table 9players, and only grind GGthanks points. For that is imposible you to play against them, i have reported at GGtahanks more than 50 bots,
How do you detect the bots Inspector Gadget :D
I call bullshit.
Do you know there been actual players accused of being bots? ^^
 
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It's back again old system, only different was GGCare (badbeat and coolers) didnt give points. Which make so diffucal to play in Cash tables, rake eat so much.
China farm bots play seat on same table 9players, and only grind GGthanks points. For that is imposible you to play against them, i have reported at GGtahanks more than 50 bots, they abbuse promo. pre flop everyone pay 1bb, than on flop they all pay 2bb, than on turn they go 4bb, and before show down jump with nothing (high card J or T) :D
I agree about a high rake - that is why ThanksGG is indeed very important part on GG micro - to be able to beat the rake I just need to take part of my profit from ThanksGG.
But about bots - sorry, I am not convinced at all. If I were at such table, I would just sit there waiting for good cards and win big.

pre flop everyone pay 1bb, than on flop they all pay 2bb, than on turn they go 4bb, and

BTW just curious - what did these "bots" do if raised by lets say, 20bb? Call? Fold? Raise?
 
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But about bots - sorry, I am not convinced at all. If I were at such table, I would just sit there waiting for good cards and win big.
It's not that these bot farms don't exist. But the big rooms have enough resources to combat them and mostly don't even let bots slip through their firewalls.
Small rooms however are constantly in critique for rampant bot activity

Zamani also mentions that they don't exist on major rooms.
So @budaloto , I suggest you stop these baseless allegations
 
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budaloto said:
It's back again old system, only different was GGCare (badbeat and coolers) didnt give points. Which make so diffucal to play in Cash tables, rake eat so much.
China farm bots play seat on same table 9players, and only grind GGthanks points. For that is imposible you to play against them, i have reported at GGtahanks more than 50 bots, they abbuse promo. pre flop everyone pay 1bb, than on flop they all pay 2bb, than on turn they go 4bb, and before show down jump with nothing (high card J or T) :D
Yeah i also saw a screenshot on 2+2 with similar stuff from chinese players. Dont give up the good fight and put the trolls here directly on ignore (like i did) who tell u otherwise. Some wannabe GG-reps lurk around here and as soon as u say something against the site they appear.
 
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Yeah i also saw a screenshot on 2+2 with similar stuff from chinese players. Dont give up the good fight and put the trolls here directly on ignore (like i did) who tell u otherwise. Some wannabe GG-reps lurk around here and as soon as u say something against the site they appear.
The British would like your sense of humour, making fun of people with the intent that they don't even recognize that as mockery :D
 
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G0930 said:
It's not that these bot farms don't exist. But the big rooms have enough resources to combat them and mostly don't even let bots slip through their firewalls.
Small rooms however are constantly in critique for rampant bot activity

Zamani also mentions that they don't exist on major rooms.
So @budaloto , I suggest you stop these baseless allegations
I have played once versus a bot on 888 poker... I believe it must have been, or either it was some kind of glitch on just him - as it was constantly using emoticons, every 1 second ( or whenever possible ) , various emoticons.. throwing things..

I flagged it, however have not checked whether 888 team did anything about it...
 
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I have played once versus a bot on 888 poker... I believe it must have been, or either it was some kind of glitch on just him - as it was constantly using emoticons, every 1 second ( or whenever possible ) , various emoticons.. throwing things..

I flagged it, however have not checked whether 888 team did anything about it...
U might want to do some research what a bot in poker actually is. Using constantly emoticons is not a typical characteristic of a bot, its actually more of a sign that its a real person.
 
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I have played once versus a bot on 888 poker... I believe it must have been, or either it was some kind of glitch on just him - as it was constantly using emoticons, every 1 second ( or whenever possible ) , various emoticons.. throwing things..
That really is no indication of a bot.
I think it's really funny that people seem to think they can detect bots by mere observation.
There are companies specializing in bot detection
https://seon.io/resources/how-to-detect-a-poker-bot-farm/
 
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Well, of course poker bots do exist. I just strongly believe they are not so silly to float 1 or 2 bbs every hand, spam emotes etc. Bots do not exist to give out money, but to win them. They must be much more sophisticated. Stating that you recognise them by such observations is pretty naive.
If someone posted he recorded, checked and they were playing perfect GTO, perhaps I would be a bit closer to believe it. But have mercy, not such silly things you stated above ;)
I also believe major rooms (GG included here) have tools to detect bots.
 
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That really is no indication of a bot.
I think it's really funny that people seem to think they can detect bots by mere observation.
There are companies specializing in bot detection
https://seon.io/resources/how-to-detect-a-poker-bot-farm/
It was on tournament, and for 45+ minutes ( i can not remember exact time as it was some time ago) while I played with it on that table, bot was using emoticons every single second, constantly - without stopping. like it was jammed.

It was so weird, that everyone on table started trowing shit onto it.

Now i wish I had video recorded, but regardless - due to this suspicion i had flagged it
 
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Mario7 said:
I agree about a high rake - that is why ThanksGG is indeed very important part on GG micro - to be able to beat the rake I just need to take part of my profit from ThanksGG.
But about bots - sorry, I am not convinced at all. If I were at such table, I would just sit there waiting for good cards and win big.



BTW just curious - what did these "bots" do if raised by lets say, 20bb? Call? Fold? Raise?
they play on same table Full ring, and just grind GGthanks points. Which is abbuse of promotion
 
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Mario7 said:
Well, of course poker bots do exist. I just strongly believe they are not so silly to float 1 or 2 bbs every hand, spam emotes etc. Bots do not exist to give out money, but to win them. They must be much more sophisticated. Stating that you recognise them by such observations is pretty naive.
If someone posted he recorded, checked and they were playing perfect GTO, perhaps I would be a bit closer to believe it. But have mercy, not such silly things you stated above ;)
I also believe major rooms (GG included here) have tools to detect bots.
they Grind GGThanks points, and full fill all table 9 tables. You dont play against them, but they abuse promotion, and steal money from regular players.


If GGpoker give Daily freebie to Natural8 players, they will bankrupt so fast, because in China player don't need KYC. But they allow them to abbuse GGthanks, or other promotions like Christmas box or New Year Resolution. because that promo are deducted from players.
 
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I didn't receive anything, I don't play cash games.
If you dont play Cash, you can recive from Spin and Gold if you lose badbeat, cooler, or you win big hand (4of kind or straight royal flush) or if you are busted in bubble on any tournaments.
 
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